Who Did A Better Job Against Dmitry Bivol? Craig Richards Or Canelo Alvarez?

Craig for sure, but Bivol coasted against him

 

Agree. At least you're providing context it's true that you can lose all 12 whilst being competitive in each of those rounds.
If that's the basis then Richards was clearly more competitive in his fight with Bivol.
It's laughable that the '"Special one" who casts no shadow still implies that 7-5 scored by the judges is a reasonable score when he was out manoeuvred and outlanded with relative ease throughout the fight.

 

Craig easily. After that performance I had written Bivol off at the top level.

 

Even more laughable that he has only actually scored Round 1 lol.

 

Richards was more competitive for the whole fight

Lost but was in every round really to a degree

 

I know, it's just going into that fight the consensus was pretty much that Beterbiev was the top ranked LHW and Bivol was the best LHW. And I think many would have favoured Bivol to beat Beterbiev.

But after the Richards fight Bivol lost a lot of shine, which is probably why he was an underdog against Canelo.

Whereas now he's back on track for being the best in the division.

It was such a stale showing and certainly didn't portray an aura of world class boxing.

 

To be fair that was starting from the position that 7-5 was fair and reasonable. Then it was Canelo won the first 4 rounds as per judges. Which was then reduced to Canelo winning the first round. Now admittedly I didn't know that shoulder punches were scoring however that made little difference in scoring the round. That same individual was also trying to score arm punches which is incorrect as they form part of the defence.
When I watched the fight I gave Canelo the 9th but thought you could also give the 4th but after that there's little to no reason giving any other rounds as he was soundly outlanded with the cleaner work. Canelo was preoccupied with trying to land big power punches that either missed or were hitting the bicep and fairly soon was gassing and frustrated as he was easily out manoeuvred.

 

Or Bivol is just B level. A good fighter, but gets squashed by a legit LHW like Beterbiev. ****, I'm not so sure I'd even favor him to get past Gvozdyk.

Bivol is my avatar because he undressed the devil himself. But let's not get carried away. Canelo has lost at least 5 times already (though never as comprehensively as he lost to Bivol) and just isnt a great fighter.

Let's see how Bivol looks against a real LHW performer.

 

Great post. Richards was much more competitive than Clenelo. Bivol won convincingly though and those matchroom scorecards were shameful.

Bivol coasted against Richards after an 18 month lay off and he looked like he hadn't got out of gear 1 against Canelo

 

I think that's why Canelo's team picked Bivol was because he hadn't knocked anyone out for several years and that he looked less than stellar in his two previous fights. It's only in hindsight that people now give credit but that wasn't the perception beforehand and Bivol was clearly seen as the easier challenge than Beterbiev and his 100% KO ratio.

 

Two very different fights in terms of context.

Bivol was bang up for Canelo - the biggest fight of his life. Richards.......... less so, clearly.

 

I'm not sure about Bivol being B level. I think it definitely means something that he is outclassing bigger opponents than him. Some that are huge punchers at LHW

That said, Bivol is a small LHW and Beterbiev is a huge LHW. I feel it may be quite hard for Bivol to halt Beterbievs pressure. I'd go with 65-35 in favour of Beterbiev if they fought

 

The main problem that ya'll need to avoid is the "scoring angry" syndrome. I know some of ya'll just don't like Canelo for whatever reason and some have a tendency to just auto-score whole fights against him. Almost like you're just doing it as a joke to see how people react or something. When I hear 12-0 cards against the P4P best, it indicates that you're not really scoring rounds, it's just "oh Canelo's fighting, lets just automatically score every round against him" sort of thing. That's just being silly.

Avoiding auto-scoring or "scoring angry" problem is the main thing. It's like in the movie Groundhog Day when the Groundhog is driving and Bill Murray tells the Groundhog "don't drive angry". It's the same thing with scoring boxing matches. "Don't score angry" and you'll be fine. It also works the other way, if a fighter you really like is fighting, not auto-scoring every round for him is also important. So you actually have to score fights rather than just auto-scoring every round for the fighter you like or every round against a fighter you don't like even if that makes you feel good inside, that's not actually scoring a boxing match.