Scoring Mayweather/Canelo with a special guest

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes school is in session once again.
     
  2. shadow111

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    Auto-scorer.
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's not far off the mark. All rounds Canelo took were pretty close. A 12-0 isn't out of the question.

    You're just a canelo fanboy who can't cope that your boy got schooled. Going through the most mentally chaotic jungle gym logic to justify Canelos judges. It's humorous really
     
  4. shadow111

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    Well he's in trouble now. I gave him a pass with Round 3, but after Round 6, now we're pumping the brakes. We're only getting started with Round 6, then we'll get into Round 3. What's the point in going through 7-12 without dealing with Round 3 and Round 6?

    Also note that it's not Markus scoring of the first 6 rounds that is problematic, it's his "view" of round 3 and round 6. You could give those rounds to Floyd, I mean I wouldn't, given all the problems with that. The repetitive dirty fighting from Floyd, plus all the shots that you can't see from the showtime angles. Thank goodness for the fan cam.
     
  5. shadow111

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    Are you gonna respond to any of my clips? I'm putting in the work to wake you out of your funk. Did you consider all the fouls by Floyd in round 6? Did you notice all the shoulders shots by Canelo before I spoon fed you them with the fan cam? Did you credit the big right hand? The clean left hooks? You're just completely ignoring what Canelo did to Floyd in that round. Frankly, I think I'm being very favorable to Floyd scoring that round even. Canelo landed the better cleaner shots, and didn't fight dirty that round like Floyd did.
     
  6. Quina74

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    I've just watched round 3 back took me about 10 minutes. Canelo did not start the round off strong lmao he didn't land anything.

    Your case for Canelo - a right hand to the body (that honestly from the angle looks desperate and if query whether it even was an effective epunch) , a clean jab to head, a jab when Mayweather pulls back, a jab to the chest, right hand to the body near the end.. There may be some other punches you want to argue but they weren't clean.

    Floyd landed several clean head rocking jabs throughout. And that combination in the corner where Floyd landed punches (if that's what you're referring to).. Floyd landed a solid jab, then two right hands.. The two right hands both absolutely landed. Floyd lands a hook at the end. He also lands a some jabs right hands to the body

    It also has to be taken into account even some of the punches what touch(land) Floyd are when he is moving, also taking the sting off the punches. But even if he was staying still, Floyd wins the round off better, more frequent cleaner purposeful work.

    Canelo has a mediocre shoddy case for round 3. The fact you're resorting to emphasising arm/shoulder shots means you've run out of ideas and putting them on equal footing to head shots.

    Clear Floyd round. You and that judge are smoking some strange stuff
     
  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I igorned nothing Canelo did because i watched the fight in .25x speed. Everything Canelo landed i counted. Fully blocked arm punches mean little in the grant scheme of scoring shots. Which is the majority what what Canelo landed. Mayweather shoulder rolling shots also doesn't count in Canelos favor.

    This is the problem. You count every single shot Canelo lands that isn't glove. Thats not how it works. And you also refuse to acknowledge the jabs Mayweather landed
     
  8. Quina74

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    Here we are again discrediting Canelo's opponents for doing things you would credit Canelo for.

    When Canelo was in the corner, Floyd landed a 1-2 and another right hand. All of which landed.

    Floyds jab were certainly more headrocking than Canelo's what are you talking about? And he landed more of them. Floyd also landed some right hands/jabs to the body
     
  9. shadow111

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    Who was the effective aggressor that round? Did you see Floyd getting roughed up on the ropes? Who was the ring general that round? You must have missed the stiff jabs early and late by Canelo. Who had the better defense? And before you answer that, note that Canelo parried several Floyd jabs that round, brushing one of them to the side skillfully. That's high level defense. Extra points for parries. Also, note how many times Floyd tried to land body shots but was blocked. All factors, all parts of the scoring criteria you cannot ignore. Nothing shoddy or mediocre about it. Canelo won that round. It was close, but Canelo edged it with his superior skills on display that round combined with hard jabs, body shots, etc.
     
  10. Quina74

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    Dude in the rules, which you harp on about, where it specifies shoulder shots must be considered.. It also says inside glove slaps are illegal. That was an inside glove slap. You can't agree with one but not the other.. Bias exposed again
     
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  11. shadow111

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    I'm pointing out what Floyd did well. I'm saying this is a very close hard to score round. You could give this round to Floyd, the problem is Markus acting like this is a clear round for Mayweather. It definitely wasn't clear. It was a very close and debatable round. I'm explaining to you why I scored it to Canelo by giving you very valid points that support my reasoning. I of course will point out what Floyd did well in that round as well and how it compared to what Canelo did well. As I'll do with Round 6 as well.
     
  12. Quina74

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    Dude you're just straight up lying out of your ass. Floyd won round 3 clearly - more frequent, cleaner work. Canelo was desperate throwing his arm punches in that round.

    It doesn't matter if you're walking forward, you're getting outlanded with better shots you idiot.

    Stiff jabs... There were none from Canelo my recollection of just watching it especially in the first 30-45seconds
     
  13. shadow111

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    There is no such "inside glove slap" language in the guidelines. The left hook landed clean and was without a doubt a scoring shot. That follow up right hand that deflected off the shoulder could be considered a "shoulder block".
     
  14. Quina74

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    And Markus is right. It definitely was clear for Floyd. Mayweather objectively landed the cleaner work.
     
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    Dude, I can't recall it exactly. But it was absolutely clear in those rule what it meanst. Just accept your wrong here.

    An inside glove slap, using the forearms is not a punch. And that in the rules it states that (or that it is illegal something along this lines ) ? Do you agree with that simple premise? If not, please show me those rules again. We are going to have a problem if you are selectively choosing what rules you are following.

    And 2. Is that a glove slap from Canelo? (hint, yes it is)