Do People's Expectations & False Perceptions Of Reality, Affect Their Judgement While Scoring?

How many asbo's you got?

 

A great example of this would be Beterbiev Gvozdyk. Many people have Gvozdyk slightly ahead going in to the 10th round before the stoppage. Their minds just couldn't process that Gvozdyk was being outboxed by a supposedly crude brawler. All those blows landed on Beterbiev's gloves, shoulders and forearms were just confirmation bias on their part. A close viewing of the fight would indicate that.

 

Great thread @CST80 . This happens ALL the time with commentators and judges.

 

Well said. You hit on the main issues. The remedy is going through the rounds in question, posting clips where necessary, from multiple angles including fan cams if possible, and support your view of a round through relevant video evidence.

 

And you dont think you're biased?

 

I'm annoying? I'm not trying to be annoying at all. I'm trying to HELP. And I don't claim to be perfect. If you disagree with me on anything I welcome disagreement and am very willing to own up to anything that I'm wrong about. I am very grateful to have a platform to post clips to show important parts of rounds that are relevant to scoring. I go out of my way to support my views and I try to be thorough so people can't just say I'm pushing narratives. If you think I'm pushing narratives, then call me out on it. This isn't a joke CST, there are a lot of narratives that I'm exposing and again whether you agree or disagree, I'm only trying to help and make people aware of the lies and disinfo.

 

We're all biased to an extent, myself included. But the video footage doesn't lie. Even though CST has some cards I disagree with, particularly his Canelo and Saunders cards, outside of Canelo and Saunders fights, most of the time his cards seem to be in line or close to how I see it. And he isn't afraid to go against the mainstream and give a completely different card even if he's in the minority. People might accuse me of being too favorable to Canelo, or exaggerating his work, which is a fair criticism, but the status quo is the polar opposite of that, with people auto-scoring rounds against him and in many cases completely ignoring his work. So to balance things out I think it's important to focus on his work, because like I said it's being largely ignored and phony narratives have formed surrounding that. If I don't bring this to light, who will? The best part of this place is being able to point out what I'm seeing through clips and video evidence. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, and I doubt CST expects everyone to agree with him, but there's gotta be respect for anyone who is passionate about the sport, is confident in their scoring and is willing to back up their views with supporting evidence.

 

Scoring is inherently subjective so you can't prove that anybody won a round.

 

Gvozdyk quit and had enough and then retired. I do not blame him. I would have done the same thing. He's no Arturo Gatt, Matthew Muhammad or Joe Smith Jr. And that's perfectly fine and ok.

As far as the cards on that fight. I had Beterbiev ahead. I've given my reasoning. If you or others disagree then that is fine. I don't agree, but neither you or I are definitively correct. The nature of scoring rounds is inherently subjective.