Do People's Expectations & False Perceptions Of Reality, Affect Their Judgement While Scoring?

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  1. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Olu has joined the fray. This should be fun.
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Says the guy who is one of the most guilty in scoring fights a particular way based on whether you like a fighter or dislike him. Your scoring isn't just frankly atrocious.... it's ****ing hilariously bad. It's a pity you didn't have Piper Laurie in Carrie to scold you before submitting one of your atrocities.
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  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Yet my scoring seems to correlate with the official judges which shows I actually understand scoring better than you and most of you. I don’t score based on who I want to win the fight as that is a different thing.
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I sort of take the same approach with you in that I don't challenge you on your scorecards when I see a score that I don't agree with because I know it could start a fight and that can easily be avoided. I would say to you the same thing I said to Markus and Q that rather than look for areas of disagreement and conflict, look for areas of agreement. Start there, find areas we agree on then, which is the path of least resistance but not necessarily the most fruitful one. When you suggest that I'm wrong about everything or 90% of stuff you're not exactly making it easy to join forces. If you were more real about it, and said like well you're wrong on a lot but you're also right about a lot, then we'd be getting somewhere. Like I always say I can lead a horse to water but I can't make it drink.

    I do try to keep it entertaining but in the end it's all about keeping it real and trying to improve the situation. I mean, how could anybody ignore the clips of Floyd fouling Canelo in Round 6? Is that part of the 10%? I'm sorry but bad fouling factors into my scoring. I'm not one of these people who only score fouls if the ref sees it and takes away a point. That's giving the ref too much power over my card and would make my score reliant on the ref. That whole idea never made any sense to me since people are so frustrated by judges and want to correct them and often score against them, but then when it comes to the ref some people say you have to abide by the ref's decision in your scoring.

    Concepts like this are so outdated CST and limit our ability to score rounds accurately. Even if you thought Floyd won the round, how can you not respect someone who points out clear blatant fouls and refuses to score a round to a guy fouling that much? I don't reward fouls like that, and it wasn't just one borderline foul, they were repeated bad fouls. So if you want to think I'm wrong about everything or 90% or whatever go ahead, but that to me sounds like you're not even trying to look for areas of agreement. If you want to avoid calling me out to avoid conflict, that's good, I pretty much do the same thing with you, but there are areas that we agree on, like with Pac Floyd for example. We're not going to agree on everything, and I think it's safe to say that for whatever reason Canelo seems to be a polarizing figure for a lot of fans so that factors into this.

    It could be as simple as you just interpret Canelo's boxing differently, and don't credit it like I do, doesn't mean your wrong but oddly I would like to better understand the reasoning behind it. But if that's going to lead to conflict and fighting, then maybe it's better to leave that alone and focus more on areas of agreement which is pretty much what I've been doing. I have plenty of other posters in here willing to put it on the line and challenge me. I'm really looking to join forces with anyone who respect other peoples scoring. If it has to be the way of swimming upstream as you say, so be it, but if there's a way to agree and disagree and join forces more, I'm all for making that happen.
     
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  5. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Thank you Sir I am here to educate the fools. There is a reason my scoring tends to be in line with the official judges. This is due to my objectivity.
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah... the judges that people ridicule and mock relentlessly as corrupt money grubbing ghouls who should be investigated and banned from the sport. I wouldn't be bragging about that if I were you. You only score based on who you want to win.
     
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  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    No I don’t I score on subjectivity rather I score on objectivity. You love certain fighters and hate others hence your scorecards reflect your bias.
     
  8. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I feel like this played a huge part in the scoring of both Canelo vs GGG fights.. I knew GGG wasn’t gonna get the decision in the second fight when he started fighting off the back foot..
     
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  9. African Cobra

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    Also when judges get it wrong I don’t presume they are corrupt or have been bribed though obviously some may have had to much to drink.
     
  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Canelo won the 2nd fight because he won more rounds clearly using effective aggression. He deserved to win.
     
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  11. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree but I’m simply stating that whatever chance GGG thought he had went out the window when started fighting off the back foot.. Even though the judges scored it for Canelo over 80% of pros and media scored it for GGG. GGG fighting in a different played a HUGE part in the judges scoring..
     
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  12. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I actually think lil g fighting a different style was forced on him by Canelo’s effective aggression not by choice.
     
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  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Such idiotic logic. Olu it's obvious judging is beyond corrupt and it isn't a complement for your scorecards to correlate with the offical.
     
  14. G Man

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    Yes and these same people then proceed to **** all over their guy when he loses.
     
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  15. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    Lol I just rescored Canelo vs GGG 1 on the general forum.
     
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