Would a prime James Toney have stopped Spence within 6 rounds?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    If Spence had been born the same year as Toney would James have stopped Errol within 6 rounds if they met for the 160 title? A lot of people have stated that Spence can move up to 160 cause he`s such a big middle, yet I just saw a thread stating that Toney feels that Bud can stop Spence within 6 rounds.
     
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    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe not 6 rounds. But, Toney would batter Spence from pillar to post.
     
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    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is a terrible match up for Spence. He gets punched hard, he gets hurt and he gets destroyed.
     
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    It's such a mismatch that the thread is totally unnecessary
     
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    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    That's a highly plausible assertion.
     
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    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Spence is a career welter who is now falling out of prime and can barely make weight at 32 years old.

    Spence isn't beating a middleweight of Toney's calibre.

    You won't beat a Burger King like Toney or a Gypsy King like Fury
     
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    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Given that Spence has never been above 147 a mythical match up at 160 (against a better fighter p4p) seems ridiculous
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He`s a big welter.
     
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    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Who is also skilled and versatile and tough as nails so it will be a highly competitive matchup.
     
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    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He won't have physical advantages once he moves up to 154 though. I agree with what @Olu G. Rotimi said.
     
  11. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    What a weird thread….

    Errol Spence a career 147 that we’ve never seen once at 160 and therefore have zero clue how he’d perform at that weight against one of the greatest MW’s of the last 25-30 years……
     
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    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Spence walks around at 190.
     
  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Tough enough to take shots off a middleweight? Spence was badly hurt by Ugas.
     
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    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    So what`s your opinion on this match-up then?
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Spence is a huge welter and has the same reach as Toney, and he`s only an inch shorter.