This is why coaches always say "Box!! don't brawl"

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  1. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What was Joe thinking trying to exchange bombs with a killer that has all KO's..... what a huge tactical mistake!! I bet his coach is so angry with him.
     
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  2. Snails

    Snails Active Member Full Member

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    Smith is a limited fighter and can't really do much else.
     
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  3. West of Hollywood

    West of Hollywood Active Member Full Member

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    Smith is a puncher who was fighting a much more skilled boxer/puncher. I think he took his best chance by going for it. If he would have tried to box he would have just gotten systematically beaten down.
     
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  4. Presenting-Fight-Film

    Presenting-Fight-Film Active Member Full Member

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    no ones trying to see running, this is what we want. good **** beterbiev
     
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  5. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So do you think that was the gameplan of his team all along? Just start throwing bombs in the third round ??
     
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  6. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    That was his only chance, to catch him and catch him early. He can’t box with Beterbiev, Beterbiev is far more skilled.
     
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  7. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    That’s it, go for glory or go out on your back. Beterbiev would have beaten him up and stopped him if he tried to box, that’s delaying the inevitable while giving up your one and only chance of landing a big punch early.
     
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  8. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Smith’s best chance was to brawl. And hopefully land a bomb in an exchange. He actually tried it, in the second round and after a brief exchange where Smith took the worse of it, he called Beterbiev in for more. He knew it was his only chance, but Beterbiev was too smart and stepped back. He found every hole in Smith’s defense in less than a round. Timed overhand rights that Smith had no answer for
     
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  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont blame him, he would've had no success trying to box. At best he could've tried to run Beterbiev into a counter but it probably wouldn't have worked either because Beterbiev boxed. Smith's limited but he has power, so it was his only shot
     
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  10. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People also complain when the more limited fighter sits back and gets out boxed without "going for it." A different game plan wouldn't have mattered, Joe is just not on Artur's level.
     
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  11. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    Smith wasn't going to outbox Beterbiev or finely work the openings to land his shots. Might as well just go for the gusto and see what you can do with that big punch. Not much, as it turned out, but trying to be cute wouldn't have changed the outcome. Maybe he lasts a couple rounds longer, but for what purpose?
     
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  12. kirk

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    Hindsight is 20/20

    Had Joe, whose only chance was to catch Beterbiev before Beterbiev caught him, went out there and started trying to be some kind of technical boxer, and got broken down and stopped... people would be calling him an idiot and that he shouldn't have tried to box Beterbiev, someone whose been applying effective pressure on world class boxers with better skills than Smith since the amateurs.
     
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    Also... it's entirely plausible that Joe was already badly stunned by the time he started exchanging bombs and did that because he didn't think he would survive if he went on the backfoot, so he went for broke hoping he'd catch Biev in an exchange.
     
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  14. Thunderstorm

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    Shows you how great Fury is…
     
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  15. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    This will be similar when AJ finds that trying to ragdoll, maul and stop Usyk early isn't going to work, and will end up with AJ stopped by the mid-rounds after he gasses.

    Sometimes there are no routes to victory, outside of a hail mary bomb that connects.

    At least Smith came to win, and went for it. Would folks rather have seen him do a Callum Smith vs Canelo?
     
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