If Bob Arum prevents a Bivol-Beterbiev unification fight because he dislikes Hearn

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  1. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Then he's one of the most selfish promoters in boxing history.

    Bivol said after he defeated Canelo that he wants to unify with the winner of Beterbiev-Smith. Beterbiev said last night he wants to unify.

    Every boxing fan that I've ever known wants to watch the best fighters fight the best. We all want clarification in each division, one champion per division.

    Since Terence Crawford has left Top Rank, we will now see the best possible welterweight fight: Crawford vs Errol Spence. We will have one undisputed champion in the welterweight division.

    But with Beterbiev now at age 37, by the time he breaks free of Top Rank, he may be past prime. Ideally we should have the unification fight between Bivol and Beterbiev THIS YEAR, maybe in November or December. But because of Bob Arum's petty feelings about Eddie Hearn, it may well be impossible. Besides, Arum would prefer to keep everything in-house if possible, although he may permit Beterbiev to fight Warren-promoted Yarde (which is not an interesting match up al all).
     
  2. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no way I will blame Arum after so many great fights, that he is making.

    at that age and still doing better than any other promoter, or even better than everyone combined. (if you don't believe, lets make a list of good fights by promoters and compare)

    If Bivol wants to fight, he will do anything for this opportunity.
     
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  3. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Ultimately for all the pantomime that goes on these guys are businessmen that would sign a deal with the devil himself if they thought it to their benefit. I don't think the reason to prevent the fight would be because he hates Hearn, it would be for strategic reasons around Top Rank and Dazn and broadcast partners. They're playing high level chess trying to starve the opposition of ammunition / content and preserve the value of their own best fighters.

    Obviously it's the fight we all want, but promoters don't have the same interests as fans. They'd sooner use the interest to make lesser fights which keep the two guys winning and make the big fight only once all the other dollars have been extracted from the fans wallets. They'd do this regardless of the personal relationships between Hearn, Arum or any other player. It's just business.
     
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  4. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Yet Arum seems willing to do Beterbiev-Yarde with Frank Warren, which is not only a less interesting fight, it will bring in less money.
     
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  5. shavers

    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    **** anthony yarde nobody wants to see this arrogant *****... Dumb the belts and fight Bivol, every body knows who the real champs are... And yarde aint one of Them...
     
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Beterbiev wants Bivol

    His team wants Bivol

    Bivol wants Beterbiev

    The fans want Beterbiev vs Bivol

    Bob has been negotiating Beterbiev vs Yarde in England with Big Frank and says it's a done deal and that he's spoken to Team Beterbiev about this. Beterbiev's trainer Marc Ramsay said no one has spoken to him about it

    WTF is Bob doing? Just give the fans the fight they want and the fight both fighters want and absolutely deserve.

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  7. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    For (massively in my view) less risk. He can take that fight and still get the revenue from the bivol fight later, arguably it will only grow further with more marinating...
     
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  8. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    But Beterbiev is age 37 and isn't getting any younger.

    The sooner we have the fight the better, it should not wait until he's faded.
     
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  9. Who_Necks

    Who_Necks David Price's Big Suit Full Member

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    Bob and Eddie have actually worked together and i don't think anything has soured the relationship to the point where they carn't work together in the future?
    Undisputed seems to be the desired route a lot of fighters are taking at the moment (we have had more undisputed fights since the pandemic than we have had in the previous 10 years)
    I carn't see a reason both guys wont want to go straight into undisputed it makes sense for both guys and probably the biggest payday for both.
    Unless Canelo wants to get his lugs boxed off again i think this is the next fight for both.
     
  10. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    I wouldnt be surprised if that happens. Greedy bob is one of the most selfish promoters and has blocked alot of big fights from happening because hes not willing to do buisness outside his own promotion. Terrible.
     
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  11. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    I thought it was obvious. Arum is trying to age Beterbiev out. Keep him winning and earning money against guys like Yarde.

    Beterbiev is thirty seven and still a monster. Arum will wait a year and half or two and cash him out.

    Edited for clarification.
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Bivol is with Hearn though. He'd love to get one over Hearn.
     
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  13. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Yes but I don't believe Arum believes he can beat Bivol. He can beat Yarde. Maybe I'm wrong. Perhaps Bob is just an old, bitterly defeated man who is senile. He is what... a hundred and four?
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Maybe to both :lol:
     
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  15. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Promoters complain about other promoters blocking fights only when it’s convenient for them. They would do the same thing when it’s not in the best interest of their business..