OK, but that doesn't tell you very much, given what he is doing. Imagine a universe, where we had to grade the ATG's, on their shadow boxing technique. How far would we get?
I guess he really su-ked and the three divisions he came to dominate over ten years aren't even worth mentioning ... people are just dense .. of course styles were different from the running holding the cane to the shorter , choppier shadowboxing but while the game has changed and the drugs are far far better the human body hasn't ... can we say Joe Louis holds up ? Well he was completely programmed by Jack Blackburn .. it goes on and on ..
When was the last time you saw an ATG shadow box and NOT look the goods? Go and watch Floyd, Manny, Tyson etc shadow box, then come back to me.
Go watch the clip of Dempsey shadow boxing posted earlier in this thread. It was clearly something different than modern shadow boxing. Judging it by that criteria is pointless. Maybe it's buried in a training manual, but otherwise no one alive eve knows what they were even trying to do with it.
I think a lot of it looks like it is for infighting, and probably atleast some of it is for grappling. Without a decent idea of what they were going for and thinking with it, there's nothing to judge. Imagine if in 100 years the speed ball has gone the way of Indian Clubs, and the only footage of Floyd Mayweather was his hitting the speedball. And then Imagine people going "LMAO that's how he punched? Awful punching mechanics" That's pretty much what's going on
The hypothetical is in the future where that's the only footage of Mayweather. Obviously we wouldn't, but the point is that the way Mayweather is being seen in that hypothetical could be what many have done in this thread
If I showed you footage of one of these men shadow boxing, and they looked awful, would it lead you to radically reevaluate your opinion of them?
POOR Quality Film, movement, speed and gaps in movement... MOST of the OLD Footage is just the same, but we KNOW it is NOT Representative of Real Life. we know that from the MINORITY GOOD Footage that show Boxers from these Era's RIGHT, some can't be right and Most others aren't... I myself, have posted many examples of the odd Good Quality Footage and the Fighters look perfectly normal, as you would expect them to look.
So if Greb's shadow boxing session had been filmed in modern, HD quality... would that have made him look any less silly?
Greb has the greatest resume in the sport relative to his era. Are we thus to believe that Greb's era was a million times worse than that of Floyd and Manny?
