Post 1920 s Fighters That Could have Done well, Under London prize ring rules?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Can you imagine some of the post 1920 s Fighters, fighting under the LPRR s.?
    What sort of guys iyo, could compete successfully in that environment.
    For some reason, Marciano and Hagler spring to mind.
    Jack Johnson too.
     
  2. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think Marciano would be pretty poorly suited to LPR. He had the stamina, but in a lot of ways his style would be all wrong.

    If you tried to duck low oon the inside like he did, you'd probably just get thrown, and he tended much more heavily towards throwing rounded punches, while for bareknuckle straight punching is preferable.

    I think George Foreman has a lot of good atributes, but he would need to change his punching style to be more carefull for his hands. and focus more on straight blows. He would also need to learn to fight at a slower pace.
     
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  3. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jack Dempsey. He could punch to the body hard, and he could grapple.
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Yi, that's a good one, dj. Can just imagine jack beating the crap out of his opponents. Ragging them about.
     
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  5. Fergy

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    George would struggle to do that, young George that is imo. He'd more than likely take out a Lot of the other guys fast, with the power he had. But over the long distances, not sure he'd manage to pace himself. The oldy version of course, is a different case.
    Marciano, he had the strength and the stamina. Not sure he gets to 49 - 0 in this type of fighting tho.
     
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  6. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Taking guys out fast really wasn't easy under LPR rules. Every knock down ended the round, so they got a while to recover, and there was no downside to going down really.
     
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  7. Fergy

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    It's an hard question to answer I suppose but do you think there were guys that could hit like George back then?
    He'd put em down early and most stay down.
     
  8. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Could George punch like George with no gloves or wraps?

    Plus they get 40s to recover after a knockdown, and if they are groggy, and opted to, could go down from the first punch as soon as they came out intentionally to get another 40s. As long as they can get back up to scratch the fight can continue.

    The ruleset really worked against early finishes
     
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  9. Fergy

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    Yes there is that to ponder, obviously George s punches aren't going to be ex gentle on his hands.
     
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  10. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    The force transfer wouldn't be as good either.
     
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  11. janitor

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    I am honestly struggling to understand what attributes in a modern fighter, would translate will intro an LPR fighter.

    Stamina obviously.

    Heart obviously.

    Power?

    Wouldn't hurt I suppose, but it would have to be carefully balanced against the risk of breaking your hand.

    Chin?

    Not necessarily a huge game changer, when you have 30+ seconds to get up.

    Speed?

    Can't hurt, but you are in it for the long haul.

    Technical ability?

    Probably if it is employed in a manner appropriate to the rule set.

    Finishing ability?

    Probably not if the other guys has any sort of resolve to beat his 30 second count.
     
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  12. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Liston. Strong, low center of gravity for wrestling, large hands that I assume wouldn't break easily, tough, good stamina.

    His jab was more like a bareknuckle lunging left to begin with. Not hard enough to break his hands, but hard and consistent enough to wear down and stop somebody when thrown bareknuckled.

    Anyway. That's my guess based on how they trained and what they valued back then.
     
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