Dempsey's crazy 1st round KO record

LETS GO CHAMP!

 

Terrific post.

 

Everything is about dosage. Or as a derelict once explained to me, "If it kills you, it's got to get you high first."

Many endurance and strength athletes have taken it (and some still do). In smaller doses it is quite effective at increasing stamina. Thomas Hicks used it in the 1904 Olympic Marathon. Pro cyclist Adri Van der Poel was busted for it in the 80's. Weightlifter Izzat Artykov was busted for it in the 2016 Olympics. It's been around for a while.

 

If there's an amount of Strychnine that would have helped Dempsey, then I'm sure, if he knew about it, he used it. And I'm equally sure he wasn't the only one. I'm sure this kind of thing's been going on from 1870 to 2022. The names of the chemicals change, as well as methods of getting them into the body, but the idea's always the same. It's all part of boxing, and athletics in general.

 

If you really think about it, and view the fight, Dempsey's win over Willard could also easily have been a 1st round stoppage. The referee would have been more than justified to halt that fight before the bell ending the 1st round.

 

So who’s the best fighter that Dempsey KOed in 1 round?

 

Interesting. I didn't know that.

Even if the accusation is true, a professional world class boxer wouldn't need a drug for a stamina boost for the 1st round. It wouldn't be a factor when discussing who was the most dangerous boxer in the 1st round.

 

Well, he certainly wasn't the best opponent on Dempsey's resume, but in the context of the modern era Carl Morris stands out, literally. He was relatively modern sized at 6'4, 220 lbs with an 81' reach. 35 pound weight difference.

Some of Dempsey's 1st round KOs happened after just 1 punch connected.

 

Pretty sure you couldn’t even get licensed in South Africa without having a cool mustache.

 

I have that going for me at least.

 

yikes Morris was a lumbering oaf. A punching bag with no skill

These big bumbling bufoons who look terrible on film we’re the best men to fight for smaller heavyweights because they produced high light reel knockouts. They give us modern historians a disbelief that a 190lb man can beat a 6’6 250lb fighter with speed athleticism power and coordination…in reality a Carl Morris couldn’t fight a lick and in later eras which produced skills big men, he wouldn’t even sniff the top 10

 

Dempsey had bet on himself to win by first round KO. That's why he LEFT THE RING after the first round, and had to be called back! He thought that the damage he'd done to Willard was enough to end the fight.

We've all seen the fight, but I've inserted the point at the end of the first round where WIllard is left pulverized in the corner as the bell rings, but his corner come in an pick him up. Dempsey leaves the ring, but then his corner start waving frantically to get him BACK into the ring for the second round. Surely WIllard had more than a minute to get ready for the second round, but the fact that his corner came in the ring and picked him up should have disqualified him and thus Dempsey should have been award a first round KO.

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Carl Morris was such a lost cause when Dempsey took him out in one that the heaviest betting was on whether Carl would even show up for the fight.

 

If you notice, even weightlifters have been busted using it. Maxine is the one who brought this to light, saying that Jack was only good for 4 rounds after which the drug had worn off. Obviously, he had a few later round KO's, and we don't know if his opponents were doing the same thing, so there is a lot of gray area here.

 

How can she claim he's only good for 4 rounds when he went the distance with Tunney way past his prime? That doesn't make sense.