Cases where the great big man beats a great smaller man

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  1. Liston73

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    Valdez had been a middleweight for 6 years.
    In their 1 st fight Valdez scaled159 3/4lbs . Monzon 159 1/2lbs
    2nd fight Valdez158 3/4 . Monzon159lbs
    Monzon was the taller man, but the weights had nothing between them.
     
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  2. Mike Cannon

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    Greb-Walker.
    Foster-Tiger.
     
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    Tunney v Greb 3
     
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    Modern times: Floyd V JMM? The size difference on the night was there for all to see.

    It's easy to pull counter a guy who you have that much height and reach on
     
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    Ali - Frazier II and Thrilla in Manila
     
  7. SuzieQ49

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    Greb beat Tunney 3x
     
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    Nope Greb won the 1 st fight Tunney two of the next 3. Although Greb almost certainly deserved the verdict in their 2nd fight.

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    The decision in Tunney's favor was hotly disputed. Regis Welsh of the Pittsburgh Post thought that Greb was robbed as did various other experts, including Commissioner William Muldoon, who called the verdict "unjustifiable". 19 of 23 newspapermen at ringside believed Greb should not have left the ring without his crown. 15 voted for Greb, 4 for Tunney and 4 voted for a draw. Greb was the aggressor and Tunney the counterpuncher. Greb was made to observe the rules closely and this undoubtedly curbed his usual "free-wheeling" style.
    3rd fight
    The consensus was that Tunney won 9 rounds, Greb four, and two were even. Tunney mounted a body attack that allowed him to dominate the fight from rounds 8 to 14. The first seven rounds were evenly fought and Greb rallied strongly to win the 15th. Greb landed many more punches but Tunney's were harder and cleaner. There were no knockdowns. The Brooklyn Citizen reported that the majority in the crowd felt Greb was entitled to a draw. The Brooklyn Standard Union also reported that many in the crowd felt Harry deserved a draw.

    4th fight
    Two out of three Cleveland papers scored it for Greb (the other called it a draw).Stuart M. Bell from Cleveland Plain Dealer scored for Greb 6-3-1, the Massilon(Ohio)Evening Independent scored it for Greb;
    Lima News (AP) called it a win for Greb, but reported that many ringsiders thought Tunney had the edge; Ray Coll in Pittsburgh Gazette-Times scored it a draw;
    Zanesville Signal (INS wire) gave edge to Greb 5-4-1; Wisconsin Rapids Daily Tribune/Milwaukee Journal (United News wire) said newspapermen gave Greb "all but the tenth round"; Jim Jab from Pittsburg Press scored for Greb 7-3.

    5th fight.
    "Tunney gave Greb as thorough a beating as he has ever received. So completely was Greb outclassed and outfought in six of the ten rounds that he resorted to a defensive fight after the third and thereafter was guilty of persistent holding and stalling varied only by rare flashes of offensive fighting, which Tunney quickly terminated by a devastating attack. Tunney concentrated his fire almost entirely on Greb's heart and body, landing with deadly accuracy and telling effect. After a flashy start, Greb went on the defensive and let entire rounds go by without making more than a weak show of attack, without landing a decisive punch, even on those rare occasions when he undertook to do the leading." (Associated Press) Referee Barton later stated that he asked Greb why his efforts were so weak, to which Harry replied that Tunney had re-aggravated a rib injury in round three.
     
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    Nuff said, you shored up your post.
     
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    Greb..first fight which he won, and second fight which he was blatantly robbed in, and fourth fight which majority reports say he won.
     
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    The majority though Walcott beat Louis in their first fight, but Louis left the ring as champion did he not?
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    Referee stated he would have ruled a draw;