Who is/was more skilled Crawford or Pernell

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BoxingIQ, Jun 28, 2022.

Page 5 of 22
  1. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2020
    Messages:
    8,683
    Likes Received:
    11,481
    Whitaker in his prime was unreal. A young motivated non-coked up Whitaker wins a UD. His "blemishes" against Ramirez (robbery), Chavez (robbery), ODLH (controversial) all could have or absolutely should have gone his way. Trinidad and Bojorquez were his last fights with hm being inactive and old for both. Whitaker even went up way past his best weight and beat the feared JC Vasquez for a 154 lb strap. Whitakers level of competition is so far above Crawford's when they were the same age its laughable. Even just counting Whitaker's "lesser" opponents he probably has fought better competition than Crawford (Hurtado, Rivera, Pineda, Anthony Baby Jones, Brazier, Pendleton)
     
    Pepsi Dioxide, Jun 28, 2022
    #61
    Loudon, Boon and Ducklerr like this.
  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Messages:
    49,470
    Likes Received:
    15,780
    Oscar never fought a guy as "skilled" as Crawford? Or did you mean to say never BEAT a guy as "skilled" as TC?

    Regardless, I respectfully disagree. I think Crawford is immensely talented, one of the very best (and perhaps the very best) in the sport today. But in no way whatsoever am I convinced that he could beat Oscar, Tito, or Sweet Pea, let alone all 3 of them. I like his chances against Chavez, but maybe not so much if Bud gets stuck with the judges Pernell had the night he faced JCC.
     
    Rumsfeld, Jun 28, 2022
    #62
    Loudon, cuchulain, Levook and 3 others like this.
  3. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2012
    Messages:
    42,532
    Likes Received:
    3,733
    Yup and Pea arguably beat Oskee.
     
    turbotime, Jun 28, 2022
    #63
    Hanz Cholo likes this.
  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2012
    Messages:
    42,532
    Likes Received:
    3,733
    And Crawford isn't? Dude was on ***** street by a washed up Gamboa.
     
    turbotime, Jun 28, 2022
    #64
    Ducklerr and Oddone like this.
  5. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2017
    Messages:
    2,050
    Likes Received:
    947
    Ok, let's talk about oscar. Do you see Crawford struggling with someone like Mosley who lost to Vernon Forest out of everyone?
     
    BoxingIQ, Jun 28, 2022
    #65
  6. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2011
    Messages:
    10,929
    Likes Received:
    9,944
    They were pretty good. Maybe not on Buds level, but solid.
     
    Braindamage, Jun 28, 2022
    #66
  7. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2011
    Messages:
    10,929
    Likes Received:
    9,944
    You think Crawford beats Mosley and Forrest easily? I can't call it, but again, damn good fights.
     
    Braindamage, Jun 28, 2022
    #67
    Ducklerr likes this.
  8. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2012
    Messages:
    42,532
    Likes Received:
    3,733
    As opposed to?
     
    turbotime, Jun 28, 2022
    #68
  9. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2012
    Messages:
    42,532
    Likes Received:
    3,733
    Mosley would fck up Crawford. We all know this.
     
    turbotime, Jun 28, 2022
    #69
    Dannymita and dcb154 like this.
  10. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2012
    Messages:
    42,532
    Likes Received:
    3,733
    Exactly. Who is the best Bud has beaten? Oscar, Tito, Pea, Mosley hell even Quartey. Bud hasn't even sniffed that type of talent.
     
    turbotime, Jun 28, 2022
    #70
    Loudon and Noel857 like this.
  11. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2012
    Messages:
    42,532
    Likes Received:
    3,733
    er: 117982"]Ok, let's talk about oscar. Do you see Crawford struggling with someone like Mosley who lost to Vernon Forest out of everyone?[/QUOTE]
    Do you watch boxing?
     
    turbotime, Jun 28, 2022
    #71
    Dannymita likes this.
  12. Johnny1987

    Johnny1987 Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2019
    Messages:
    1,349
    Likes Received:
    1,814
    OP’s next thread is going to be, H2H Butterbean was the best counter puncher of the last 50 years
     
    Johnny1987, Jun 28, 2022
    #72
    Dannymita, Loudon, cuchulain and 1 other person like this.
  13. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2012
    Messages:
    42,532
    Likes Received:
    3,733
    :lol:
     
    turbotime, Jun 28, 2022
    #73
    Loudon likes this.
  14. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2017
    Messages:
    2,050
    Likes Received:
    947
    Vernon lost to Mayorga and Ike who are both levels below Crawford
     
    BoxingIQ, Jun 28, 2022
    #74
  15. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2017
    Messages:
    2,050
    Likes Received:
    947
    I'm just saying, do you honestly see Crawford struggling against someone like Vernon who lost to lesser fighters compared to Crawford, Spence, and I would even say Porter.
     
    BoxingIQ, Jun 28, 2022
    #75
Page 5 of 22