Is "Weight Bullying" real ? If so, does Bivol have the answer?

If they make the weight without any banned substances then it’s not weight bullying. Can’t have two sides of the coin in my opinion. When the fighter wins he’s weight bullying but when he loses he was weight drained.

 

I say this is an excellent idea to prevent weight discrepancies. I also think it makes a bigger difference in lower weight classes, as the rehydration makes up a higher % of their total body weight. If the rehydration clause makes it to the fight contract it would make the fights more fair

 

It is real, but who really cares. If you can make the weight, you can make the weight and it offers a cool dynamic in fights.

 

It's real but it gets complicated because at a certain point of drain it becomes damaging to the big drainer.

But it's clear that there a ways these big drainers have found to avoid that and then quite simply come into the ring far bigger than their opponents and thus have a huge advantage. For instance Chavez Jr. versus Andy Lee at 160 was a great case of this. The difference was huge and Lee wasn't a small MW.

Another way the weight cheating is done is to drag up a smaller fighter into a class they don't belong. The most comical example of this was Canelo versus Khan. You had Canelo doing both things at once, cutting massively to make 160, then dragging up a welter also. The result was an incredible difference in mass in the ring. Canelo lovers will try to point to GGG-Brook, but Brook was a fill in and the size difference was small on fight night, hardly noticeable, because Golovkin is not a huge MW and Brook was a big cutter at Welter.

You can argue ''well everyone should just become a massive drainer'' but they might not have the 'help' to do it and why should they be punished for trying to just have a moderate cut and basically abide by the weight class? Cutting anything is already absurd really.

The 10lb limit would help a bit, but depends what day it's done. Jacobs was supposed to abide by that in the Golovkin fight, but didn't make the 2nd day limit or whatever it was, so still came in huge. Same day weigh in would solve it pretty fast. If they die, they die.

 

It's real. and many ignore it just because they don't care.

Make the same day weight in and let's see what will happen

 

I like IBF’s rehydration clause, and WBC’s 7 days and 30 days weigh ins. That being said, cutting too much weight can be beneficial, It can be damaging, seriously damaging in some cases. Every fighter try to find the perfect balance for them, which is okay considering they compete under the same rules.

So, aside from cases like Luis Nery and JCC Jr. who actually cheated to make weight(I’m also suspicious of Julio Cesar Martinez, starting to see a pattern here) or Salido who seemed to intentionally missed weight against Lomachenko to gain an advantage, “weight bullying” is just stupidity and It’s a convenient way for agenda driven people to slam fighters they hate on.

 

Half of me thinks this.

The other thinks "what's the point in weight categories at all if not to make competition as fair as possible".


What weight bullying comes down to is "who is most willing to risk their health in cutting huge amounts of weight to gain an advantage once rehydrated".
Sure, boxing is a risky sport to begin with so who expects much risk aversion on this front?
On the other hand, we do want to see fair fights and we don't want to see guys permanently injured in ways that were avoidable with a little common sense.

 

You need several weigh ins on a timelime and a rehydration clause to prevent drained boxers wnd weight bully's

 

See purposely missing weight or agreeing to show up for morning rehydration weigh-ins and skipping out (Danny Jacobs) is weight bullying. But if you make the weight for a fight naturally that is not weight bullying.

 

We need to go back to the old weight classes, no more super or junior etc. Cyborg from MMA said she was so dried out that when they took a needle of her no blood would come out (dehydrated) also Bobby Southworth (MMA as well) cut like 30 pounds in 24 hours causing hell for the weight cut and risking permanent damage to his kidneys and such. Pretty disturbing stuff. Albeit I like the idea of Bridger weight still.

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Everyone, save a fighter or two, are essentially weight bullies. Whining about it is pointless. Everyone is under the same weight conditions. And not to mention, being a weight bully CAN Backfire.

 

I don't believe in weight bullies.

But I'm all for rehydration clauses.