Based on Featherweight resume, Vicente Saldivar is the 2nd greatest Pep ahead of Saddler/Salvador

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  1. TheEliteMaster100

    TheEliteMaster100 Member Full Member

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    Wins over;

    Ismael laguna - future lightweight champ (HOF)

    Jose Legra = Future featherweight champion, dethroning Winstone for WBC crown

    Sugar Ramos (HOF)

    Howard Winstone x3 = Quasi-All time great

    Mitsunori Seki

    Johnny Famechon = defeated Legra and stopped Harada chance of being 3x division champ

    Raul Rojas = became champ when Saldivar vacated

    This resume is far superior to Saddler who is more of a H2H featherweight atg than top 2 ATG in his division. Cheating and controversial win over Flash Elorde.

    Sal Sanchez struggled with Pat Cowdell and the best name on his resume was Malaria stricken Green Azumah Nelson.


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    Top 3 Mexican after JCC and Ruben Olivares. I would then have Zarate, Finito Lopez and Barrera as the 3 greatest Mexicans following them.
     
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  2. salsanchezfan

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    You're over-simplifying the other two, but Saldivar certainly has an argument.
     
  3. TheEliteMaster100

    TheEliteMaster100 Member Full Member

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    People think of the 'what if' regarding Sanchez rather than his actual body of work.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Nah, but I think of him more and more as locked in number three.
     
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  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sandy Saddler has the three best wins in featherweight history on his ledger … all by stoppage over Willie Pep. And it’s not like those are his only credentials.
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

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    So Nelson had Malaria again vs Sanchez ? He already had that excuse for Fenech can't use it twice.
     
  7. George Crowcroft

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    Nah, his body of work is still amazing.
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    Exactly I didn't really understand that comment.

    Danny Lopez x2
    Azumah Nelson
    Ruben Castillo
    Wilfredo Gomez
    Juan LaPorte

    It's there for everyone to see there is no "lack of body of work" it's there right in front of you.
     
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  10. Mike Cannon

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    I take your well made point buddy and agree, slightly miffed with your appraisal of Saddler, he had wins over a good crop of fighters namely :
    Salas, Joe Brown, Carter, Zulueta, DeMarco, and obvs the wins over Pep, plus the KO % , that aside, neat post.
    stay safe amigo.
     
  11. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    I think the issue is that folks tend to turn him into the son of Odin because he died. Lot of wiggle room between overrated and P4P God.
     
  12. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Vicente Saldivar was an all time great, no doubt about it. But in all fairness, Salvador Sanchez did not live long enough to fully establish himself to possibly surpass Saldivar. Sanchez was WBC Featherweight Champion from Feb 2 1980 until his untimely death on August 12 1982 following his title defense against Azumah Nelson on July 21 1982 resulting in a TKO 15 in Madison Square Garden. Sanchez made 9 successful defenses of his title and was scheduled to make his tenth title defense on Sept 15 1982 in Madison Square Garden against Juan La Porte, which was a rematch. Then a possible fight against WBC Lightweight Champion Alexis Arguello was on the horizon.
     
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I've never heard him refererred to as Loki or Thor?
     
  14. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    That's a lowly position for Sal fans to submit to.