Fury should quit after fighting Joshua

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  1. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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  2. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Usyk or he’s ducking.
     
  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Who's Joshua?
     
  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Some thoughts:

    1) This is extremely old news, now. Why are we talking about it?
    2) Joshua has to convincingly beat Usyk before this is plausible.
    3) Joshua is going to lose to Usyk worse this time, so it is not possible.
    4) Usyk would be the fight.
    5) If Joshua wants a pay-out, he could build himself back up after the second Usyk loss with a few good fights, and then go in and lose to Fury.
    6) Fury will also lose to Usyk, will he want to fight Joshua to determine second best?
     
  5. DramaShow

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    Why Joshua and not Usyk ?
     
  6. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk isn't a draw and would not be a big money fight. So why do it.
    Retiring isn't ducking no matter how much you just love Usyk.
    Usyk isn't anything that special.
     
  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have just made a bigger goddamned fool of yourself that even Dubblechin.

    Undisputed cruiserweight champion and unified heavyweight champion in 19 fights with wins over six other titleists, all in their hometowns, without a single controversial fight or even knockdown.

    If Usyk decided to retire today, he would be an ATG.
     
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  8. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    this
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    A fighter can for-real retire any time he likes. There is no such thing as a retirement duck IMO as the alternative seems to be a shame-fight. If a guy retires because he feels he can't win a fight, he's entitled, that's absolutely fine and a very reasonable reason to pack it in.

    As long as he's clearing out the way, it's totally cool. It's the guys who won't fight a guy but fight three other guys instead that hurt the sport.

    It's a dangerous sport. Hard to think of anything more dangerous than fighting because you don't want people to think you are ducking the #1 contender when you are ready for the slippers and the fireside in your own mind. And there is always a number one contender.
     
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    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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  11. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    No he wouldn't. He was a swell Cruiserweight. Very talented. And he caught Joshua on the mental decline.
    But that don't make him a HW ATG by any stretch of anyones imagination. Maybe yours but not any reasonable person.
     
  12. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's entitled to retire whenever he wants but if he chooses to only fight the winner if it's AJ than he is 100% ducking Usyk and I am a Fury fan. I agree that there's not much left to prove other than fighting the winner.
     
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  13. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1) Agree
    2) Disagree even if Joshua loses which is not guaranteed then it's still a huge fight in the UK for both men.
    3) Irrelevant as explained above it's still a big money fight. Also it's heavyweight and nobody knows what will happen. AJ could win by robbery for instance. what then?
    4) I like Usyk but he's nowhere near as big as a fight with AJ. that's just fact and achievements are irrelevant as only hardcore fans are aware or care.
    5) Fallacy logic.already explained that even if Joshua loses to Usyk which again is if. then he still generates far more money a defeat doesn't erase that overnight.
    6) All your false assumptions are based off results going in the direction you think. Last time I checked I've never seen you state that you can predict the future and what qualification you have for making these assertions.

    The point is nobody knows what will happen and those who do with Heavyweights will be wrong half the time at least.
    What can't be denied is even after a loss AJ for better or worse is one of the biggest draws in boxing full stop. So obviously that and Fury's confidence makes that the most logical fight to make. Remembering Fury has shown concern with retaining his unbeaten record and is unlikely to change unless he sees Usyk age over night.
     
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  14. catchwtboxing

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    Whereas I respect your opinions, I don't think the fight would be that huge in the UK. At least not as big as it was. At the end of the day, people don't pay to see a loser like they do a winner.

    It is not my "assumption," that Usyk is going to win, and it is not based on results going in. I picked Usyk to win the first because he is as superior technician, a better volume puncher, and has a better chin. I am not sayin git is set in stone, but it isn't an "assumption," either. It is an educated extrapolation.
     
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  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is not a matter of dispute. A vast majority of the boxing community would consider him thus, and thus, he would be. A simple minded git like you can always disagree...they always do.