Are the past Eras overrated or the new generation just not that good?

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Neither. Both are good, obviously. They're all world level fighters it's just the level that changes a little bit. Everyone with an opinion is bias to their era. It's natural. That's why it feels like one side or the other might be right.
     
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  2. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    That's it exactly.

    There is as much if not more talent nowadays as in the past, but we are not consistently getting the best matchups.

    The best fought the best in the old days, nowadays we often see top fighters avoid other top fighters because of selfish promoters like Bob Arum.

    Spence-Crawford
    Bivol-Beterbiev
    Joshua-Wilder (should have happened 5 years ago)
    Fury-Joshua
    Charlo-Golovkin
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The boxing nostalgists view everything from the past through the lens of rose-coloured googles and everything of today through the lens of a microscope
     
  4. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I always feel the fighters from the past are better since there was a bigger talent pool as boxing was a bigger sport and they fought more often.
    Srr simply had better skills and toughness because of it.
    If he fought now it would be way less but hevwould hsve benefited from modern day sports science more.
     
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  5. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    How often were super fights in the 80s and 90s? Today we have big fights constantly, it is far better than even ten years ago.
     
  6. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    The talent pool today is of a far higher quality, pro boxing used to be US baseball. Today you have top fighters from everywhere around the world. Today you have exponential growth in every area of the sport due to the connectivity of the world. Boxing pre-1990 was basically the local leagues, with myths about jogging everyday and eating steak for breakfast. Someone read a newspaper article about someone knocking out a donkey, man his opponent is in trouble lol
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    It's a crock of bull**** from rose colored glasses wearing fantasists, nostalgists and romanticists. Many of the highly touted icons from the past would be slaughtered by modern day fighters, and if they were active today, there'd currently be tens of thousands of threads on here deriding many of them as laughable skilless hypejob bums with ungainly styles, padded records, pisspoor stamina, hideous footwork, glass jaws and awful defense, who block punches with their faces, have no idea how to throw a proper punch with countless inexcusable losses against journeymen and B-level fighters with multiple losses.
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Great minds think alike, I hadn't even read your comment before posting mine.:sisi1
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Many of the greats of yesteryear lost to, or were dropped by, or went life and death against way lesser fighters or bums.
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :deal:

    Could you imagine the grief Sugar Ray Robinson would be getting now days for getting stopped by Joey Maxim a featherfist with only 22 KO's in 78 wins, with 18 losses and 4 draws. But... but... but... it was really hot, and he was exhausted!!!! Bull****! That sounds like an excuse to me! #NoExcuses!:sisi1

    Joey Maxim was an Aries by the way.:D
     
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Joey actually suffered frostbite in that fight lol

    Not surprising he was a beast, might have lost to a lot of the greats and best fighters he fought but his resume is crazy and he was as tough as they cone
     
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  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah, by no means was that an attempt to throw off on Maxim, but you already knew that. He was as tough as they came, and was willing to fight anybody, and gave most of them hell. It's a pity most of those matches from back then are incomplete and shoddily filmed, damn I wish HD existed back then.:lol: So we could all go back and rescore trough a modern lense, all the matches of his he lost by MD and SD, I have a feeling his record could've looked much different with fairer judges.
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah I know it wasn't I was just praising him for his Aries toughness and gigantic Aries plums

    Yes that would be really cool if we could do that.
     
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  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Quite frankly, that would open up a Pandora's Box like floodgate, the Classic section would quadruple in size, and we'd both be over there making two and three threads a day. Hell... I'd probably have triple the RBR threads.:sisi1
     
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: for sure
     
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