Is Monster Inoue An ATG...???

I think you should watch those other fighters I just showed you and see the skills and talents they possess.

Deficiencies as in ability wise? Inoue has a style that will make him competitive with any great BWs from any era. But let’s not pretend that he’s this perfect fighter, no fighter is perfect. Inoue’s defense is not really the best and he doesn’t move his head a lot. We have yet to see how he does against slick defensive specialists but hopefully we get to see him face Fulton in the future so we will have a much better idea.
Like I’ve been saying, it’s better to just wait and see how his career pans out rather than going overboard and crowning Inoue as the GOAT.

 

If you think about it, if you weigh in at noon and are going to fight at 8, how much do you want to eat and drink?
From what I have read, all the old trainers advocated eating a good meal, drinking water, but not too much. You know how you feel after overeating. The idea was to eat, rest, empty your bowels and get ready to fight. Being over hydrated was discouraged.
I have heard that people around Monzon said he gained 7-8 pounds, and that may be true, but I don't know if I believe it. And, with a guy that weighed in at 118, that would be a huge jump in 8 hours. At that weight, maybe a pound or two.
The whole approach to making weight was different then. They would have had Zarate at 122-124 at the beginning of fight week, at the end of his hard sparring and training- as I think of it, probably at 120, 122. The last week he would rest and cut those last pounds by weigh in, just dry out. He would eat and drink, not excessively, and a lot of that would be lost as he urinated and defecated. So by fight time he would be 119, maybe 121?
If you watch the Gatti v Ruelas fight, Ruelas only gained 2 pounds after the weigh in, while Gatti was much bigger. Different ways of making weight, only one of which was in practice when Zarate and Olivares fought.

 

If he cant beat Lomachenko, he aint no atg.

 

I don't know?

 

I feel like Inoue's defense is underrated- Only 21% of his opponents' punches land. Lomachenko's opponents land 18% of the time, for comparison.

The only thing I don't like about Inoue's fighting is that after he lands he gets a little excited, doesn't move back like he should and sometimes his opponent is able to counter back before he can get back outside.

 

Joltin’ Jeff is one of my favorites to watch. I had the pleasure of going to visit him last month. Great guy.

 

I seem to remember Serge saying he came in at 126 for the first Donaire fight, which is a pretty tame rehydration.

 

I'd take Inoue over most second tier greats at bantamweight, or at least a lot of them. He's definitely in that same range. So not far off guys like Zarate, Olivares, Harada and Jofre, but just a step behind IMO. He has obviously has a puncher's chance against the lot, but I think he'd generally lose and his chin, while amazing, isn't good enough to rule out a stoppage loss against Zarate or Olivares. Even Jofre.

He just gets too lax with his defence when he's 'off'. When he's 'on', he doesn't really have an issue, although he does still keep his chin in the air when he punches. Specifically the jab.

 

Same all round mate, a lot of your threads are either sticking it to Canelo/Floyd groupies or funny as ****, so I can always respect that. Plus, who doesn't love Inoue?

 

Jofre and Harada would be in the danger zone trying to hook with Inoue, to be honest. Lots of clinching as well which I don't thnk Inoue has the time of day for in these rough and tumble fights.

 

You literally just described Zarate, Olivares, and Jofre. Everything you said about Inoue can be applied to those 3 as well.

Have you had the chance to check out Canizales, Lora, Chandler, Fenech, Sahaprom?

 

Maybe, but if Harada and Jofre can take shots off guys like Medel and in Harada's case, Jofre, for rounds on end, they can take them off Inoue. I don't think either would go out of their way to exchange with Inoue, either. Harada would put him on the back-foot and look to maintain range just outside of Inoue's, and use his weird rhythm and much better jab to out point him, rather than look to exchange. And Jofre would likely choose to counter, and use Inoue's openings to his advantage. The problem in these matches which Inoue faces is the same as he faced in the first Donaire fight. He's in with guys who will be able to read and stop his attacks, and be there to fire back. Could Inoue win, yes. Both Jofre and Harada have been hurt by worse punchers than Inoue, and in Harada's case, be was stopped by one at the end of his career. However, they both 'survived' (Harada was KOed by Medel) a better one which they both went to absolute war with.

I really think these two are just too savvy in what they do to not impose themselves on a got like Inoue, while having the skills to stop Inoue from running them over.

To throw Inoue a bone, he's very live against aggressive guys like Harada, Zarate and Olivares. Simply because they're there to be hit back, just as much as Inoue is. But they're all better boxers and would certainly be winning at the time of the stoppage if Inoue took them out.