Are the past Eras overrated or the new generation just not that good?

Yes. I can honestly say that.

 

Go and watch Ali in his prime, and see how incredibly fast and sharp that he was.

Go and watch AJ get steamrollered by a B level, snickers eating HW with man boobs.

Come back to me when Usyk beats a great fighter at HW.


I’ve already dismantled your silly little theories on evolution.


There are fighters from years ago who were more skilled than SOME of today’s fighters.

There are a number of divisions today which were nowhere near as good as what they were 30-40 years ago.


Yeah, I’m sure that that rubbish old Ali couldn’t have beaten that Dillian Whyte guy of today.

Levels.

 

I hope for his own sake that he’s been reeling us all in.

I might PM him.

Imagine if he’s actually serious.

Wow.

 

“I’ve been watching boxing for decades now”

This is the line that killed me on my lunch hour!

Haha!

Yeah buddy.

And I’ve just had a bath with Selena Gomez and Ariana Grande.

 

Ali had a unique, unorthodox style.

However, it still takes an incredible amount of skill to throw precise combinations, which have the perfect leverage and accuracy etc.

Leverage, accuracy, timing, technique are all skills.

Landing hooks, jabs, body shots and uppercuts are all skills.

Feinting someone out of position and then countering are all skills.

They’re just different types of skills.

Ali had immense footwork.

Usyk is more skilled from a textbook perspective.

Ali was unorthodox due to his incredible speed and reflexes.

It’s like comparing Mike McCallum and Roy Jones.


Once again, you have also overlooked the stylistic match up.

Hearns was on another planet to Iran Barkley.

How did that turn out?

 

Go and put the tennis on you fool.

 

How far boxing has come?

Ali vs Frazier wasn’t a technical match up due to styles.

AJ vs Fury was more of a technical fight.

Ali fought Frazier the last time in 1975.

Go and watch Leonard vs Benitez from just 3 years later.

There were many technical fights in the 70’s, which showed great skills.

Why are you only focusing on their stylistic match ups, and no other fights?

What about Wilder’s off balance windmills?

Incredible, huh?

Why are you generalising?

 

A little bit of both I'd imagine. I think so of the old guys were just that tough, but my common sense makes me wonder if technique has advanced in that time and perhaps some would look crude vs modern guys. Maybe, maybe not.

 

1. None of those guys have beaten a great fighter yet.

2. Some of them have lost to non great fighters.

3. They would not be able to annihilate every other great fighter of past eras, again, simply due to styles.


Engage your brain for a second.


Loma is a genius. But a genius who took the Salido fight too early and got roughed up. A genius who has just lost against Teo, who himself lost to George, who then lost to Haney.

Now having taken that into account, how would he have fared against Roberto Duran, Parnell Whittaker, Floyd Mayweather and Julio Cesar Chavez etc??


What has Canelo done to make you believe that he could have been the best SMW of the 90’s, fighting guys like Roy Jones, Joe Calzaghe and James Toney etc??


Who have Spence and Crawford beaten for you to believe that they’d have annihilated Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, and Wilfredo Benitez etc??


Who has an 18 fight Beterbiev beaten to lead you to believe that he’d have beaten Michael Spinks, Archie Moore and Roy Jones etc??

 

Lewis, Mike and Evander weren’t all active and prime at the same time, you absolute genius.

Do you want him to chalk it out on some paper, so that you can understand?

Shall we hire Columbo?

 

It’s relevant because today’s era hasn’t got the same depth.

 

Those predictions have nothing to do with reality.

You have given zero thought to how those fights would have played out stylistically.

Zero.

Your opinion stems only from your belief that everything modern is better.

You are a clown.


Fancy convincing yourself that Loma would DEFINITELY have beaten the consensus GOAT at LW, when he couldn’t beat Teo and Salido.


It’s really great having you here sharing your incredible knowledge.

 

The sport of boxing has clearly progressed from its roots.

However, it doesn’t keep progressing over time, like other sports have.

Yes, of course sports science has aided the fighters.

However, they can only aid them.

Fights will always be won on skills and styles.

Athletics are more power based, where the objective is to race between two points in the quickest time possible.

Boxing is 2 guys, trying to implement their style on their opponent.

Boxing is therefore a stand alone sport.

The sprinters today are faster, and therefore better than their predecessors were.

However, today’s boxers aren’t all more skilled and better than all of their predecessors were.

There’s literally SOME fighters of 20-50 years ago who are noticeably better than many of today’s best guys.

 

I disagree. Wilder would've been a freak in the 70s