Carlos Takam has a big fight in September

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  1. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Martin, Brezeale, Whyteleafe, Parker, Molina, CARLITO TAKAM, Ruiz, Pulev, Povetkin.

    "Its a murderers row of shot/fat/old/name midgets koogs."
     
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  2. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no. Takam is old washed shot . not a test.
     
  3. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Takam is better than anyone he's beaten so far. Would be a decent step up from Bryan and Dinu.
     
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  4. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Too tough of opponent for Wilder. Takam is better than all the opponents Wilder has beaten with maybe the excpetion of one. Could see a past it Takam potentially beating Yoka too (Takam from several years ago certainly would).

    Takam took several rounds off Joyce and I thought was winning before was stopped prematurely.
     
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  5. TheWizard

    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    Takam is definitely not better than Ortiz.
     
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  6. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am not sure. Takam last fight July last year . is 42 almost. last fight knocked wiyh light punch with Joyce. old not active. coming out of loss & very diminish punch resist. total shot. just has name yes.
     
  7. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Certainly better than the rest though.
     
  8. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Any of the top 20 HW vs Takam will be good.

    Bakole fight would be solid
     
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  9. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    I wouldn’t call it a big fight, he’s just a stepping stone at this age.
     
  10. ShortRound

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    Takam ducked Ortiz after agreeing to fight him back in late 2016, which says a lot as Takam is a warrior. 6th Ring ranked Jennings was better than Takam, 19-1, coming off going 12 and taking 2-3 rounds off Wlad; Ortiz outboxed him and KO'd him in 7.

    Takam's best win was his 9-3 at home over gatekeeper Tony Thompson, who 16 months later got comfortably outboxed over 10 by fringe contender Malik Scott and was then schooled and blasted out in 6 by Ortiz. Takam holds the distinction, along with Scott, of being the only fighters well above domestic level that Chisora ever beat/KO'd.

    Stiverne's best win was his brutal 6th round KO over top 10 Ring ranked Arreola, a repeat of his comfortable 12 round UD as the underdog in the first fight. Arreola has gone on to his early 40's, providing stern tests over the 12 round distance for the likes of Kownacki and Ruiz.

    Duhaupas's best win was his 6th round KO over 22-0 Helenius in Finland as the underdog: a fighter that neither Chisora or Whyte could stop over 12 rounds before and after Duhaupas had KO'd him. Duhaupas also went 12 rounds with prime Teper and prime Miller pre and post Wilder: fighters who would have probably KO'd any version of Takam.

    Takam is encroaching on 42 years old, will be 14 months inactive by September and is coming off getting battered and stopped in 6 by Joyce. Even in his Thompson-conquering prime he wasn't anything special and he's a relatively light punching short heavyweight who doesn't carry a strong chin: his best career KO is very possibly Senad Gashi in 7, he's had 0 KO's in his last 4 fights and only 1 in his last 7. The likes of Washington and Arreola have more impressive career stoppages than that. So even though Takam was a decent fighter in terms of skill and ability, he posed minimal threat to the better fighters in the division and Wilder would KO him easily.
     
  11. Mitch87

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    Ortiz ducked AJ and Wilder ducked AJ (numerous times in Wilders case) , what does that say about them?

    Takam was robbed a win against Perez. Perez due to controversial (wrong) point deduction lost to Jenning, had it not been a point securing the fight would have been a draw. So Jennings should been ranked that highly and thedore Ortiz shouldn't of been ranked that highly.

    Takam was able to take 4 rounds off Parker, 3 off Povetkin and was beating Chisora until caught with great punch. Takam only lost to top HWs with the excpetion of Chisora (who I would regard just outside).

    Same can't be said about Duhaupas who lost to the likes Teper, Miller and Wilder. Although I would say Duhaupas was Wilder next best win after Ortiz, I would certainly favoured Takam back in their primes and now against Duhaupas.
     
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  12. Boxed Ears

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    Me Boxed Ear. you Fast Left.
     
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  13. ShortRound

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    AJ ducked Ortiz and Wilder, feasting on a diet of small, old, light punchers with home and A-side advantage and he still got dominated twice.

    Compubox and Eyeonthering suggest that both Jennings and Takam beat Perez in highly competitive fights. But Jennings did vastly better against their other mutual opponent Joyce, losing a close decision in Britain rather than getting pummeled and stopped in 6. Jennings also had the stones to fight Ortiz rather than blatantly duck him as Takam did.

    Takam lost to Gregory Tony as well, who is not a "top heavyweight" by any stretch of the imagination. Are the likes of Chisora, Parker, Ruiz, Whyte etc. really "top heavyweights"? They'll all have wars with each other and others roughly around their level (Scott, Kabayel, Hughie, Fa, Liakhovich, Arreola, Rivas, Wach etc.) but they can barely lay a glove on Fury, are toyed with and humiliated before quitting (Chisora) or getting one-punch KO'd (Whyte).

    Prime Miller stopped a 33-2 Wach in 9 rounds, prime Teper KO'd Price in less than 4 minutes and annihilated Sprott and Rogan in 1 round. Whyte had a war over 10 with a much older, more shopworn Wach and Chisora took 11 minutes to get 6 KO loss Price out of there, having failed to KO several domestic level fighters like Sprott and Rogan earlier in his career.

    Had Takam fought Duhaupas' opponents he'd have beaten Charr and Helenius on points but got KO'd by Teper, Wilder, Povetkin and Miller. Prime Takam may have beaten prime Duhaupas by decision in a competitive fight but this misses the point as Duhaupas was bigger, tougher and more tenacious than Takam, making him more of a threat to better fighters, hence he canvas-KO'd Helenius in 6 while Chisora and Whyte couldn't put a dent in him over 12. Takam's best KO ever was either Senad Gashi or some washed up 90's heavyweight: Takam was regarded as an absolutely minimal threat to A-side AJ, much like Joey twelve Parker, faded inactive Pulev and (hilariously) late sub Andy Ruiz.
     
  14. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yes.

    we friend.
     
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  15. FastLeft

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    in 2015 yes.
     
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