Is There A Lightheavy That Could Beat Jack Dempsey??

CBZ's record is incorrect. Yes, nice try indeed.

 

You mean its got more fights on it than you knew about lol!
.Priceless absolutely priceless!

 

Its got more fights on it than they knew too. They dont even dates or locations for the first two years of his record. They just take it on faith that those fights happened. Kind of reminds me of another inept wanna be who blindly accepts whatever he reads in his duty old magazines as long as it supports his view.

 

Why am I even dignifying your egotism with a response?You have no way in the world of proving those fights did not happen.Do you think Callis just invented them on a whim ?
This means the absolute world to you doesn't it.
You watch obscure fights between nobodies,that no one else gives gives a **** about, just so you can come on here and pontificate on them.
OBTW I accepted your opinion on the Folley v Mildenberger fight and publicly said so here and you know it, so not only are you an ego maniac you are a serial liar as well .
You're mentally ill fella! Sitting in your little box watching grainy old boxing clips at every spare moment so you can kid yourself you are superior to the rest of us , a classic case of deep rooted insecurity. If boxing means so much to you why didn't actually you do it? All your info is secondhand isnt it .You've spent your poor existence living vicariously through old film clips and news clippings.

GET A LIFE. You sad clown!

 

Liston73,

You used Brennan's punching power as an example for why Dempsey had an iron chin based on his KO percentage. Who did Brennan knock out, or knock down that impressed you?


Also, the topic on thread is can a light-heavyweight beat Dempsey? I nominated Harry Greb. What are you thoughts here?

Miske, Brennan and Gibbons all got title shots. Men whom Greb had already dominated, shut-out, annihilated, some of them multiple times.

Harry Greb beat Tunney, Tommy Gibbons, Darcy, Brennan, Miske, Levinsky, Meehan, Gunboat Smith, as well as being horribly ducked by Georges Carpentier. He beat most of these men (some multiple times) before they got their shot against Dempsey.

 

Interesting isn't that we all follow this sport, some for decades, some for less, we all read about the exploits of the fighters of yesteryear, and with the advent of YT we can now see some of these great old timers, that would include the 2 protagonist in this post.
Regarding the skill set, and punching power of both Langford and Dempsey, sorry buddy but IMO Dempsey is neither more skilful, or for that matter a bigger puncher, I have read many a article quoting an opponent of Langfords stating how hard he hit, and some had shared a ring with Dempsey sometimes as a sparring partner they attest, as for the comparison on skill , Langford was holding his own with the likes of Blackburn, Gans, Walcot, Flynn, an too many to mention, as a comparative novice , only 2/3 years into his career, that to me suggests a very capable fighter, furthermore when Dempsey is appraised, the word skillful is not one that immediately springs to mind ?.
Words like , tenacious, fierce, ferocious, is more likely to strike a cord.
stay safe buddy.

 

Dont get mad because you once again took on faith the word of someone who did nothing more than copy names from an old inaccurate record. If anyone has any problem with me stating the figures you quoted are inaccurate they can come here and debate intelligently with actual first hand sources. Until then Ill rely on the years worth of research I did on the man. Not a boxrec warrior like you or the morons at a failed, long dead, and obsolete website.

 

I never mentioned Dempsey's chin, you are confusing posters here.Jack had an excellent chin but I wouldn't call it iron.I've already given a couple of names .I think Harold Johnson would be tricky for a few rounds . Mike Spinks too, Conn might go the route but I'd pick no lhy to beat Dempsey.
Greb making a mug out of Dempsey in sparring for a few rounds does not convince me he could survive over the long route and actually win.Harry does have heavyweight credentials though ,and so must be considered.

 

I'm not mad I'm dissapointed that you can't be civil to people you reply to, the way you are talking to Suzie Q is totally uncalled for.If you could park your arrogance and conceit before replying, people would enjoy your input ,as it is every response from you is a pompous lecture.
I've followed boxing for over 60 years practised it for nearly 20, watched it from ringside for 40 years and have a modest collection of films and about 200 books on the subject.None of which makes me an expert and I've never claimed to be one.
You are saying those early fights of Brennan didn't happen, show us why you believe that? Prove those fights did not occur?
I'm not surprised you have nothing good to say about CBZ [who do you?] They banned you didn't they, were you as insufferable there as you are here?
I'm dissapointed in your behaviour and you stating something about the Folley v Mildenberger you know is a lie, but I'm more dissapointed in myself for being sucked in by your churlish egocentric behaviour and responding to you.
You look fairly amenable in your photo who would guess that your appearance hides such a conceited,self important little man whose only reason for being here is to stroke his ego?

 

Mr. Klompton, off topic question.
Any new hopes of a Greb film ? Have you kept searching ?

 

I believe that a bunch of LHWs might beat Dempsey-who weighed 187 in his prime.
But I am surprised I did not see a basic question addressed-is this meaning making 175 lbs. before the fight, or what it has meant for going on 40 year, what fighters weigh the day before a bout?

Because if it is the latter, what is literally a LHW are guys that are typically near, & often over, what Dempsey weighed.
Which would open the floodgates to men who naturally weigh as much as low to mid 190's.
Many more would be plausible candidates to win if this was the case.

A separate question would be do you allow CWs or old HWs to get down to this latter level through diet & dehydration...
If this was the case people like Louis would easily qualify.

But I assume the OP meant either those who would be max 175 at fight time, or what has literally been LHW for decades, meaning 175 with day before weigh ins.

Which is it?

 

Dwight Muhammad Qawi would have the best chance IMO.

 

Valid point!

 

It would be a war anyway!

 

No doubt Dempsey was a serious puncher but Langford, by the best men who fought him, is universally rated as a one in a generation type puncher , like a Julian Jackson plus .. he was a natural middleweight that moved up for money and fights and starched heavyweights .. Johnson, Jeanette, Flynn, Wills are all quoted (supposedly) that no one hit like Langford ..