Is Joshuas resume fraudulent ?

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  1. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic For the honorable cross and the golden freedom Full Member

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    AJ's resume is not at all better than Fury's resume (which is criticized so much).
    Fury was the first to beat Klitschko as champion.
    Fury inflicted Derek Chisora's first defeat.
    Fury also beat Whyte.
    Fury beat Deontay Wilder 2.5 - 3 times, and the big question is whether AJ could do it at all (and especially in 3 fights).
    Fury ended the decade and a half-decade reign of the 2 champions, and AJ won his first title against Charles Martin.
    ETC...
     
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  2. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's still better than Wilder and Fury's resumes combined.

    Joshua's resume is better than Wilder's by a light-year.
     
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  3. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    You can do this with almost anyone’s resume. Like it or not he has the best one in the current division
     
  4. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let me know when a boxer ONLY fights undefeated fighters to get actual credit....
     
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  5. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    AJs resume: Verified as NON fraudulent:

    Prime undefeated Joey twelve packets parker (lost to Whyteleafe, arguably lost to ruiz and shot old delboy chisora)
    Prime undefeated Dominic Breazeale
    Prime undefeated Prince Charles Martin
    Green undefeated one armed Dillian Whyteleafe
    Shot to pieces Kevin Kingpin Johnson
    Shot to pieces retired old grey haired VLADD without a win in three years, coming off a loss, never fought again
    Shot to pieces old alec povetkin
    Shot to pieces old kubRAT Pulev
    Shot to pieces old ERIK Molina
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Wlad, Povetkin, and Pulev were all old and well or past their best but they were all still good fighters, highly rated, and worthy of their ranking at the time and Wlad and Povetkin were still KO punchers and dangerous.

    Parker was in his prime and worthy of his lofty ranking

    Whyte is a pretty good win

    Fat Andy was prime and a good fighter

    Takam's fringe world level

    Then we get into the likes of Martin and Breazeale who are/would be considered some of Bronze Dosser's better wins

    Granted, AJ has one of the most stacked decks in the game, his gold medal is completely fraudulent albeit he did win silver in the World Amateur Championships, and you have to beat him twice to progress past him even after whooping his ass in his backyard where everything is stacked heavily against you, and he would've got splattered early against a prime Wlad and a prime Povetkin would've likely stopped him too
     
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  7. miniq

    miniq Tyson Fury Undisputed HW Champion 18/5/24 banned Full Member

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    You see that starved Walrus in my picture? It would put up a better fight than money straight into his jugular food coma Ruiz.

    He was in better shape on a 3 week notice for their first bout. That's terrible. Makes Fury look like a lightweight when he decides to train poorly.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol:
     
  9. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Prime Wlad beats him for sure. He was losing to an old Povetkin before he tired out. In hindsight it’s not a surprise AJ lost his next fight after that one. Prime Povetkin would probably have done it.

    Most of AJ’s wins have been against guys 35 and up. He’s 3-2 against prime heavyweights.
     
  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He has a very good resume. You can do this with anyone's resume.

    Is Ali's resume fraudulent?

    2-1 against Joe Frazier...the same Frazier that was knocked down TWICE by Oscar Bonevena!

    Beat Foreman...the same Foreman who lost to Jimmy Young!

    Beat Liston...the same Liston who had his jaw broken by Marty Marshall!

    Knocked down by Hank Cooper! What a bum.

    Down agaisnt Doug Jones...

    He lost to Leon Spinks! How poor is that?

    Why a bum.
     
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  11. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The facts are the AJ hasn’t fought either of the other top 2 HWs of the era (Fury and Wilder). Whilst, Fury and Wilder have fought each other 3 times.

    That alone speaks volumes about his resume.

    He only gets real credit for facing Usyk.
     
  12. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if people can pretend something like Pulev was ever a good fighter. and at 39 .
    or pretend Joseph Parker & Dillian Whyte can be ' world class"" if it was not so weak division.
    & Wlad 41 is a great fighter still. etc
    yes in this case AJ has a good resume.

    but actually no. his resume is **** for a boxer claiming ' world champion"" in so many fight
     
  13. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    No, it's a deep resume. You don't judge resumes by what those fighters that make up it go on to do or don't do, you measure it by their standing at the time. In that regard Parker, Ruiz, Wlad and Povetkin are all worthy wins, Takam and Pulev are solid wins, and Whyte is an ok win (considering the time they fought). Even lesser guys like Martin and Breazeale are solid enough to shore it up at the backend.

    Fury's resume by comparison is extremely top heavy. Two very good wins, and a ton of mediocrity almost exactly beneath.
     
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  14. EddieLima

    EddieLima Member Full Member

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    Not a fraud! You guys are forgetting that he is an olympic gold medalist. Also tried to fight Fury since he beat Wlad. AJ got great power and a good boxing skills, lacks IQ and chin but overall its a great HW
     
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  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whyte is crap, Parker is mediocre, Pulev was old, Povetkin was old, Klitschko was old AND inactive, Takam beat no one and Ruiz only beat Joshua so it's kind of ironic.

    Joshua's resume is a hoax. I know you're a big fan of Usyk and this is not to take credit from Usyk just to let you know, because Usyk is already a great. The ultimate showdown for supremacy is Usyk/Fury.
     
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