What's your Opinion Of Sugar Ray Leonard?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I feel Pryor was better than Nunn and Curry P4P, but Nunn`s size with that speed may have been too much, Leonard looked really sluggish v Lalonde.
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Norris was better than anybody Leonard beat except Hearns, he was bigger thanm Duran and more power, with a better reach and he was quicker than Hagler.
     
  3. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Was Norris better or quicker than Marvin? Was he better than Benitez? And Leonard was 35 and Norris was 24. If Norris was 35 and Leonard was 24 who do you believe wins? At 35 Norris was three years into retirement.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Norris suffers from pugilistic dementia and Parkinson's disease caused by his boxing career. This affects his speech and coordination.
    Norris was showing slurred speech before he was 35.
    Norris was less proven than Marvin but he was faster, he was bigger and more powerful than Benitez than when Benitez fought Leonard at 147.
     
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  5. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So Norris beat Leonard at an age at which he had severe neurological deficits from fighting? If Terry was in severe neurological decline at 35 isnt it fair to assume Ray slowed down a lot at the same age?
     
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  6. Mark Dunham

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    Definitely faster than Wilfred who was slow by comparison

    Not better than Marvin certainly but far, far faster and it was the speed of Norris that Leonard could not cope with

    The age of each boxer has nothing to do with this since Norris at 35 was the far busier and more consistent in activity, making his many defenses while Leonard obviously, held up quite well with his more selective approach to fights, thus preserving his physical talent, much like a Carlos Monzon.
     
  7. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yes, same thing with Ali
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    No because Ray never had parkinsons, but yes he was slower, I do think Norris would have beaten Ray in 1988 too though.
     
  9. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    As long as you feel it. And I feel it. We can feel it together... And maybe there's some Marvin Gaye on the player, maybe...And is that my honey dripper and velvet flyswatter on the coffee table? Why, yes it is. Good of you to notice, John. (dims lights)
     
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  10. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So your argument is that reflexes don't dull with age and all things being equal a thirty five year old man and a twenty four year old man have similar reflexes?
     
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  11. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I am of the decided opinion that Leonard was a famous boxer from the 1980s, and have never seen convincing evidence to the contrary.
     
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  12. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He probably beat your favorite fighter’s favorite fighter.
     
  13. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm sorry, was that intended as humour?
     
  14. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Norris certainly beat yours
     
  15. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    This erection is the most serious thing you're going to see all day...but it is meant for another...unless he's not into it, in which case...Hey, Mark. You come here often?