Jose Pipino Cuevas vs Aaron The Hawk Pryor, at 147 lbs, Both Prime, 15 Rounds.

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  1. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nope but nice try. That was one of the first fights i purchased to check out Cervantes and I remember being disappointed. He did not dominate after the 5th and the scorecards reflected that. At times Cervantes looked pretty awkward.
    Of course i purchased more fights and he was indeed impressive just not what I thought.
    8 rounds to 6 with one even is what the press scored the fight.And if you look at the scores you posted- the 2nd and 3rd ones- ONE point seperated it from going Montillas way and the other a draw. I would hardly call that a dominating performance.
     
  2. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was widely rumored that Cervantes was closer to FORTY in the Pryor fight even though it listed him in his thirties.
    He turned pro in 1964 and fought Pryor in 1980. 10 years is a pretty long career and he was well over that.
    He was done by the time he met Pryor its really that simple. And if he wasnt then why did he only fight 4/5 times over the next 3 years?
     
  3. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    1964-1980 so 16 years, you are right a pretty good long career for Cervantes.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

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    I do remember those rumors. He was certainly at the end of the road.
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

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    Every bit of exposure i had to Pryor was American.
     
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  6. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    The question in this fight might be, who hit the hardest and can either fighter absorb punches from the other.
     
  7. Cobra33

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    I think that too many people have seen Cuevas vs Hearns and come up with Cuevas could be hurt easily.
    He was a machine in his prime and would just absorb shots Hearns was one of the greatest punchers in welterweight history and Pryor does not hit like a Hearns.
    Also Cuevas was really starting to show the wear that comes with fighting like he did. He struggled mightly with Shields and while Shields was a damn good pro Cuevas just looked a little worn down.
    People on here saying Rosario, and company hit just as hard or harder and that's simply not true.
    Cuevas as I've said BROKE bones with SINGLE shots.
    Eye sockets. Jaws multiple times. Show me where Rosario did that?
    And it was not a one time thing against club fighters.
    Weston. Espada these were world class fighters.
     
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  8. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This cannot be countered, what he is saying is the god given truth, any argument to the contrary will have an agenda.
    stay safe guys.
     
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  9. Pugguy

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    Cuevas vs Duran was nice little barn burner imo.

    Again, just imo, Duran definitely felt some of faded Pipino’s shots but then it was Duran and that incredible chin and will of his after all.
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    You've got mixed up with my comments Cobra. I was the only one that mentioned Rosario and commented that P4P he hit harder than Pryor.
     
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  11. Cobra33

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    Oh sorry about that. I actually agree with that.
    I think Pryor had heavy hands but not one punch power like a Cuevas.
     
  12. JohnThomas1

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    All good mate. Cuevas is probably one of the top 3 punchers in Welterweight history.
     
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  13. Cobra33

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    Do you think Hearns hit harder then Cuevas?
    I'm not too sure - I cannot think of another puncher that had a string of literally breaking bones in opponents on multiple occasions.
     
  14. JohnThomas1

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    I think you could argue either way for single punch power. In fact they might be #1 and #2 whichever way.
     
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  15. he grant

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    There is a lot of coverage of Pryor as a big time puncher .. that is the question in debate , a big time puncher .. not to debate who hit harder .. at 135 and 140 I say he was a bigger puncher than Arguello and even w Rosasrio .. the difference is that Pryor , with his wild style did not load up with every shot for power , was often off balance and at times arm punched but the power is indisputable .. the only man to ice Cervantes, the only man to ice Arguello, carried his power all through a fight ... many here refer to him as the best finisher ever and you don't get called that without serious power ..
     
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