Joe Frazier '71 vs. Larry Holmes '82

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Who wins?

  1. Frazier by KO

    21 vote(s)
    20.6%
  2. Holmes by KO

    5 vote(s)
    4.9%
  3. Frazier by UD

    44 vote(s)
    43.1%
  4. Holmes by UD

    32 vote(s)
    31.4%
  1. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    1971 Joe Frazier was no joke, he fought like he was on a mission and not of peace. 1982 Larry Holmes was great, he had that head snapping left jab, movement. He had defeated the Geriatric abuser Gerry Cooney and future film star Randall Tex Cobb in 1982. As champion, Holmes had been decked by Earnie Shavers in Sept 1979 and Renaldo Snipes in Nov 1981. Holmes may keep Joe away with that jab, but Frazier might target where Larry lives, the body which could immobilize the footwork and stamina. Then there is the question, can Larry take Frazier's sledgehammer left hook without tasting the canvas. Both are prideful champions but Joe scored a fair and square victory over another similar boxer on March 8 1971, challenger Muhammad Ali, who had fought 18 rounds in 43 months. Joe will smoke for 15 rounds to take a very hard earned victory over Larry by decision.
     
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  2. Holmes77

    Holmes77 Member Full Member

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    I don’t think Joe punches as hard as Shavers.
     
  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    He doesn't. What the hell does that have to do with anything?
     
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  4. Holmes77

    Holmes77 Member Full Member

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    Read the post above mine….. sorry didn’t quote it
     
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  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    OK I still don't agree think this would be an obstacle in Frazier's path but your post now makes a lot more sense given the context.
     
  6. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I tend to favor Frazier over Holmes in a prime head to head. I do wonder though whether Holmes would be able to factor in his uppercuts? Futch said Ali's lack of a close in uppercut was something Frazier exploited (though Ali did land a pretty crisp uppercut on Joe early in Manilla).
     
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  7. Holmes77

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    Joe is gonna be blind from Larry’s jab. Plus he will be tagging Joe with that right. Joe can not hurt Larry. Ok maybe if he hits him with a baseball bat lol….. Joe did not have the power to hurt Larry. This is such a easy fight for Larry. Who did Joe really beat????? Ali? That wasn’t in shape etc… in the FOTC??? That was not a good version of Ali. Mathis? Quarry? Foster? I really don’t see anything on Joe’s resume that suggests he could beat Larry or a 1991 version of Foreman either! Poor Joe :meparto:
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    You've got Marvis mixed up with Joe. Marvis is the one that fought in the 80's.
     
  9. Holmes77

    Holmes77 Member Full Member

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    You have Joe mixed up with a atg
     
  10. Roughhouse

    Roughhouse Active Member Full Member

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    Glad to have you on the Forum, Mr. Holmes. How's life in Easton these days?
     
  11. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Joe not an ATG?

    Boxing obviously isn't your thang........no matter what alt you resurface under.
     
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  12. Holmes77

    Holmes77 Member Full Member

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    Pretty good!
     
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  13. Holmes77

    Holmes77 Member Full Member

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    If u say so
     
  14. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I'm an Ali fan boy! Yes, everyone reading this familiar with my posts knows I am an Ali freak. Your being laughed at.
     
  15. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Buster Mathis was 6-4 240 in his fight with Frazier. While not a great heavyweight he had agility and quickness for a man his size. He put Frazier's chin on trial in 1968. Joe Bugner was 6-4 220lbs.


    Ali hit harder than Holmes. He hit Joe with everything but the kitchen sink.. If Ali was off his best in the FOTC it wasn't by much. I didn't hear anyone saying Ali looked rusty those first 5 rounds when he was sharpshooting at Frazier's head. It was Joe Frazier's insane chin and uncommon determination that got him through.
    Larry Holmes wished he was so rusty.