Henry Armstrong vs Floyd Mayweather Jnr

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Journeyman92, Aug 3, 2022.


Who wins?

  1. Armstrong

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  2. Mayweather

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  3. Draw

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Armstrong wasn't even fighting at 37.
     
  2. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Oh was Castillo faster than Armstrong? This is a unique fighter in his own right. Mayweather would be so far out of his comfort zone, not saying he couldn't win but he would have to take more than were accustomed to seeing. Armstrong isn't going anywhere, nor will 1 or 2 potshots a round be enough to be competitive here.

    Not even going into the question of whether Floyd's hands could take the kind of wear and tear in a fight with Henry Armstrong.
     
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  3. NoNeck

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    He would have a huge size advantage and Armstrong lost to lesser fighters.
     
  4. crixus85

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    Imagine 2 fights a year Mayweather being plunged into Armstrong’s double figure schedule. Can’t see him standing the pace!
     
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  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    LOL
    Armstrong went up to 160 and basically whipped the World Champion up there. Something Floyd never even attempted. Mayweather isn't a big Welterweight anyway.

    To all the other that need to dismiss Armstrong cause his films are in black and white, consider the only reason he didn't officially win the middleweight title was because that would have given him 4 championships at the Sametime. From Featherweight to middleweight 4 full divisions.
    Armstrong would have held 4 of the 8 belts in all of boxing. He was making a mockery of the sport that's why Garcia got a draw after Hank kicked his a$$.

    They would've had to change the name of the sport from Boxing to Henry Armstrong. Joe Louis ducked Hank.
     
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  6. ETM

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    When in doubt we always go old school rules. Why make it easier?
     
  7. NoNeck

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    This is h2h right? Mayweather outclassed Canelo who was likely bigger than Garcia given that he was rehydrating. And he did it while past prime.
     
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  8. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Irresistibly tempting Full Member

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    Yeah, 183 fights in 13 years do that to you, but sure let's ignore Armstrong's almost 70 fight demolision of 3 divisions against ATGs, HoF's and world ranked fighters and focus at Mayweather beating Maidana at 37, I mean what an accomplishment, this sure proves Floyd's superiority. Sarcasm aside, he had similar troubles with glorified paper champ Castillo when he was 25 and still had legs. A clever use of pressure to close the distance and not fight at Floyd's preferred range is enough to seriously trouble him, just not enough to entirely beat him. When you add up Armstrong's nonstop aggresion, infighting skill and superhuman status gas tank, the latter having trouble would be an understatement.

    Look at Maidana swinging like a literal caveman against Floyd, the latter is so bothered by his lack of range that he can't even counterpunch and results to blocking and using head movement whenever he can and waits for the ref to save him. Do you seriously think that Armstrong, who beat one of the greatest fighters ever in Barney Ross like a little kid (A fighter with a better resume than Floyd in fact, but he fought in the 30's so he actually sucked) would do about as well as Pacquiao against Floyd ?
     
  9. Glass City Cobra

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    That was actually one of the fights I thought about before voting for Armstrong. Maidana was slower and sloppier than Armstrong and arguably won the 1st Mayweather fight.
     
  10. NoNeck

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    37. Armstrong was retired.
     
  11. Glass City Cobra

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    Why do you reply to posts with the most irrelevant information?
     
  12. NoNeck

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    Why dont you compare Armstrong's record to hof fighters to Mayweather's (+Canelo). I dont think you'll like the result.

    And Mayweather had plenty of wear and tear. He fought since a kid and had to go through a deep am career that Armstrong didn't.
     
  13. NoNeck

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    Why are you intellectually dishonest?
     
  14. Glass City Cobra

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    Going off topic is intellectual dishonesty smart guy. It's a logic fallacy, look it up.

    To address your irrelevant point about Armstrong not fighting at 37, we were discussing how Floyd looked against one of the few rugged sluggers comparable to Armstrong (Maidana). Maidana is slower and sloppier than Armstrong and gave Floyd hell. Comparing what age Floyd retired vs Armstrong has nothing to do with the fact Floyd clearly isn't going to be too fast for Armstrong to hit. If you want to cherry pick, Floyd got tagged plenty in his prime against Castillo.
     
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  15. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Irresistibly tempting Full Member

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    Why don't you look at Armstrong's record against ranked fighters and compare it to Floyd's ? I think you would cry if you did and you will avoid it so I'm going to type it myself :

    Armstrong has had more wins against top 10 rated fighters than Floyd has had fights.

    Armstrong has had more wins against top 3 rated fighters than Floyd has had fights against top 10 rated fighters.

    Armstrong has had the exact amount of title match fights as Floyd with only 4 losses AKA 22 wins to Floyd's 26, in an era when they had half the weight classes and 4 times less belts and weren't fighting several mediocre titlists to pad their record.

    Armstrong has had 14 wins against hall of famers to Floyd's 7 if you Include Canelo and Pacquiao.

    Your smartass just cherrypicked the HoF stats because Armstrong is 14-7 there while floyd is 7-0. Too bad those losses were against the likes of Arizmendi and Zivic, actual elites and all time greats when Henry was either just beginning his career or was past it. Floyd beat a shot to bits Arturo Gatti and Oscar De La Hoya though so it's comparable.

    Also LMAO at attempting to compare Floyd's 3 round amateur career as if it compensates for the wear and tear Armstrong had in 183 Professional fights.