Jose Pipino Cuevas vs Aaron The Hawk Pryor, at 147 lbs, Both Prime, 15 Rounds.

Same rumors source that state he looked terrible and barely edged Montilla ? Guess then that when he fought and twice defeat Montilla, himself a big puncher , he was in his late thirties and looked terrible so how did his chin hold up ?

 

Nice try ? I'm stating fact .. your entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts .. do your homework.

 

Think about that JT .. no doubt Rosario was a monster puncher but who were the best men he KO'ed ? Bramble ? Chavez walked through him ... Camacho took massive shots and lasted ... Jose Ramirez took his shots ... all great chins but they did take his power ... Keep in mind that Pryor was a natural 135 pounder that only moved up because no champ at 135 would fight him ... they are very comparable ..

 

Another of your wear and tear spins ? Come on .. Cuevas was in his early to min 20's when he lost to Hearn's .. he lost because of styles , something you're a bit light on understanding .. Cuevas was made for Hearn's and was destroyed because of it ...not swear and tear .. he was destroying everyone but Tommy was a step up in class and a terrible stylistic matchup ... after that Cuevas was never the same, confidence shattered ... his loss to a 154 pound come backing Duran showed it clearly ..

 

Bramble was called coconut head and hadn't even been hurt previously let alone blown out.

Ramirez was knocked around like never before in the second fight before turning the tide. No-one's punches had been affecting him like Rosario's and nor did Chavez'.

Camacho took barely any clean shots and ran like a mofo as soon as he did. Here is what you actually posted yourself to head your very own thread 2 months ago - "The first that comes to mind is Camacho - Rosario .. after that fight Hector was no longer macho but became a safety first fighter .. Rosario's power in the fifth and seventh rounds changed Camacho forever .."

If you dig deep you will actually find the claim no champ would fight Pryor is overblown.

You ask who Rosario KO'd but the thing is Pryor was a strong champ in very very weak division. His challengers were ordinary, Cervantes was old as the hills and if we want to go the negative route Arguello was an ex featherweight champion, one who made quite a few defenses there.

Now to Chavez.......it was no fluke that he crowded Rosario and took away his punching room.

As for Chavez "walking through him" let's see what the man himself actually had to say -

BEST PUNCHER

Rosario: Anywhere he hit me it hurt. Frankie Randall was also a hard puncher. [Against Rosario] it was my youth, it was the fact I was in my prime, it all helped me get through that fight.

I will dig up a couple of articles on the weekend to put this one to bed.

 

Camacho and Chavez have ATG chins though, Camacho was never stopped in 88 fights. Despite moving up in weight against big punchers like Trinidad, ODLH, taking beatings he still lasted full distance. And Chavez wasn't stopped until over 100 fights, and way above his best weight class and way past his prime. So Rosario not being able to stop them shouldn't take away from Rosario's power.

On a side not Bramble was a very strong/tough Lightweight, and considered one of the best P4P fighters in the world. Until Rosario destroyed him and basically turned him into journeyman.

 

At least look things up before posting.
Never claimed Pipino Cuevas would ever beat Hearns but the fact of the matter is he turned pro at 14 years of age.
Now throw in his style to take 3 to land 1 and you have a recipe for a short career.
His career in a way mirrored Wilfredo Benitez in that Benitez was essentially done and he was still in his twenties- and what does he have in common with Cuevas? They both turned pro when they were kids.
You can't expect kids to take power shots from adults and it not affect them in someway.

 

Not even Arguello could put Rameriz down or even Chavez.
I think Rosario was not the greatest at being disciplined.
I had forgotten about what he did to Camacho and your right Rosario ruined Camacho.

 

Agreed. I said they had terrific chins ... that's why Camacho and Chavez took Rosarios bombs and Bramble took many in a series before he fell .. that said , Arguello and Cervantes also had exceptional chins and Aaron took them out .. I'd say without question Arguello's chin was as good as either man's .. certainly more proven than Camacho's as Alexis got hit a lot more over time and wasn't a grab and hold guy .. Pryor ruined both Cervantes and Arguello .. remember, Alexis was the big favorite going into the fight and still rated one of the P4P best in the world .. Cervantes was another P4P best losing only to Benitez in the ten years prior to fighting Aaron and Wilfredo , a great fighter that would go on to win the welter and jr. middleweight titles could not stun Cervantes while Pryor ruined him .. oh, I forgot about Montilla ..

 

You make good points but what i will point out, is that Cervantes was past his best at that point. And Arguello was fighting at Jr Welterweight which wasn't his best weight. Where as Rosario was fighting Chavez and Camacho at their absolute peak.

 

You do as well. Alexis was still considered one of the very best in the world , was essentially the light weight champ who chose to move up while Pryor was rated considerable lower, an exciting fighter more than a great one and was really a lightweight himself .. Yes Cervantes was older but he was at his natural weight , had not been stopped by pretty much anyone, had an iron chin and was destroyed early ... not like McGuigan decisioning a Pedroza or even a Holmes dicing up an ond Ali .. he was flattened early .. that speaks for itself .. Chavez was actually the naturally smaller man moving uo to 135 to fight Rosario but I agree he was in his prime as was Edwin .. all great fighters ..

 

If you want to put it to bed stop with the spinning ..I never said Rosario was not a big puncher ... I said Pryor was a huge puncher and I'm right .. Rosario barely hit Camacho? ... more of your sources or simply more revision ? Here's the film .. watch round five .. start at the 26:00 minute mark and count .. it doesn't lie.

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Imagine if Rosario actually hit him ..

 

Ohhhhhh you just know i'm not going to let this pot shot slide mate........

What's on the HG TV fantasy channel this weekend? One punch knockout artist Jimmy Young vs the dangerous, electrifying George Chaplin????

I'll be back for the other post over the weekend.