Did Earnie Shavers punch hard or really hard?

Yes, they are bigger. It's very plausible that p4p, Shavers hit harder, but that's something entirely different.

 

Anyone that knocks out Norton had to be packing one hell of a punch!!!!

 

This is actually true. 3 of Norton's KO losses were to arguably the hardest hitters of all time and he was past his prime for at least 1-2 of those. It's less about Norton's chin and more about whose doing the punching.

 

Did he lift weights his later career? I know he played American Football and was likely did all the Strength and Conditioning that was available and popular at the time with exercises like power cleans , bench presses and squats. He did claim he accrued most of his natural strength from picking up and throwing bales of hay and that's what he attributed to his strength as well as chopping wood like most of the other heavyweights.

 

So what hall of fame boxers said is irrelevant, but your opinion is not. Gotcha!

 

Holy cow, imagine his legacy if he'd KO'd both Ali and Holmes.

 

Has anyone who fought him EVER listed anyone else as the hardest hitter they fought? It seems universal that every guy he fought says that.

edit: Quarry wasn't impressed by his power. But I don't know that he ever hit Quarry with a good shot, since Quarry steamrolled him.

 

Shavers got one good right hand in I recall - Quarry didn’t remember and/or wasn’t aware of it and had to be shown the film of the fight for proof.

 

What type of punch was 28 yo Larry packing over 15 rounds vs an old, 34 yo Norton? Norton’s chin belongs on Mt. Rushmore!!!

 

That’s a huge if. Even Earnie said both Ali and Holmes were the toughest mofos he ever faced. I wonder how poor Earnie felt when he saw Larry peel himself back up from the canvas in rd 7? I’d be like, “that’s it, that’s all I’ve got” - then drop tools and climb out of the ring

 

I'll believe my good buddy Randall Tex Cobb he said " Every punch Earnie threw shook him to the core. no one else ever hurt him like Earnie

 

The presenter and Muhammad Ali talk in the show:
- Who is the strongest man?
- Strongest man?
- Yes.
- Earnie Shavers.
- Earnie Shavers?
- Yea man.

 

If Ali said so, that is good enough for me

 

Out of the options above id have to go with really hard. Big big right hand but theres been just as heavy, and more importantly better punchers, than earnie. Not many mind you.

 

The testimonies have been well circulated and are therefore well known.

Everyone can weight the value of those testimonies as they see fit…and it seems for many those testimonies carry considerable weight - which to repeat, is fine but at least it perhaps crystallises from what source the greatest “evidence” is being drawn from.

A good question would be: What discrepancy do you see (if any) between those testimonies as compared to the the evidence of Earnie’s record/available vision?

Note: I understand there are several Shavers fights for which the vision is missing (Stander, Caldwell, Young 1 and 2, etc.) but there is also a LOT of vision available that can be measured up against the associated testimonies.

Another way to put the same question: Imagine that all of Earnie’s opponents remained tight lipped - not giving away a thing as to how they felt about and rated Earnie’s power.

Where do you think you might rate Earnie’s power based on the available evidence (boxing record/available vision) otherwise?

Btw, I couldn’t find the radio button voting option for “Hit hard enough to punch you in the shoulder to cause a break in your ankle”.

An unfortunate oversight perhaps?