Is this guy really the h2h goat?

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  1. Thunderstorm

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  2. SmackDaBum

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    The only Good name on Ibeabuchis resume is Tua. Even bringing that Guy Up is just an eye test. Machmudov and Hrgovic looks much better and are both avoided like the plauge.

    Hughie Fury is a bigger and more skilled boxer with Little power like Ali. Chris Byrd Would be a joke in todays era Ali also.
     
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  3. Dynamicpuncher

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    Your saying Ibeabuchi is just an "eye test" yet the two guys you mentioned, haven't beaten anyone as good as a prime "Chris Byrd" or a prime "David Tua". So i don't really understand the point your making, those two guys are even more of an "eye test" right now.

    Please do not put Hughie Fury and Muhammad Ali in the same sentence, let me know when Hughie Fury even beats a top 5 Ranked Heavyweight. Everytime he's stepped up he's looked utter garbage vs old Povetkin and Parker.

    Also Muhammad Ali and Chris Byrd would be jokes today would they ? didn't Chris Byrd hang with giant Heavyweights and become a world champion ? infact beating one of the better ones in Vitali Klitschko who's 6'7 ?

    And yeah Muhammad Ali would really be a joke now, beating George Foreman, Sonny Liston, Joe Frazier, but Dillian Whyte is a top 5 Heavyweight now, no way Muhammad Ali can compete in this era right ?
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And what do you base Holmes on? No LHW would beat Lewis now.
     
  5. SmackDaBum

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    All of Alis comp Would be jokes today. No Size and No skills. Chris Byrd was a runner barely able to survive just like Hughie Fury (a much better version of Ali)

    If People want to pick out eye test Ike I pick eye test Mach. Simple logic. You either exclude Them or Bring Them in. Ike never proved himself in championship just like Hrgovic and Machmudov

    Povetkin>Tua Byrd Holyfield etc
     
  6. FastLeft

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    Holmes : old & he was slow down with against Spinks.
    the smaller faster craft boxers often they also are the trouble for older heavyweight. Lewis did not face them boxer type. at all. so you can just say anything. we never see him against with someone like Spinks or even Byrd or something craft defensive like Jimmy Young. not one of this type heavyweight even. even something like a prime Ocasio (young 25 year age Lewis fought a fat washed shot version). Lewis did not face this styles. Lewis looks good with slow plodding heavyweight sometimes. straight up stand big target no movement like Rahman & Bruno & Golota or fat short arm Tua or Lionel Butler. lol. . lumbering heavyweight. no slick cute move boxer with speed. ever. can agree he never face fast skills defensive movement challenger? but so how can you know what he does if old against Spinks?

    Holmes 42/45 year age he did better with against McCall & Mercer. certainly did with Mercer. did better than primes Lewis. imagine those two bums in with 30 years Holmes. they were nothing to Holmes. they would be mismatch like Tex Cobb. or he can beat them with one hand. LOL.

    Holmes was better & it is clear
    very clear
     
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

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    And Chris Byrd
    But they've beaten no one. The eye test isn't always right. You go off resume because it's more accurate. You're a fan boy. It's as simple as that. Also nobody has ducked Makhmudov, just Hrgovic.

    Hrgovic should get a title shot soon, we'll see how good he really is. I don't think he wins any titles
    This is laughable. Hughie Fury sucks. He lost to Pulev, Parker, and a past prime Povetkin. He is not as skilled as Ali, anyone with a brain can see that.

    You have no actual boxing knowledge do you ? Seems as though you're just a fanboy.

    Hughie Fury does nothing as good as Ali except what ? Be bigger ? Switch hit ? Give me a real breakdown
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

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    No. Slice it any way you want, Lewis would never lose to a LHW.
     
  9. FastLeft

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    you say it but is pure speculation. but so could be true yes.

    Holmes would never get KTFO by crude bum like Rahman for full count. in my opinion. based on 30 year career.

    even if you speculate is true. Holmes demonstrated as better than Lewis already. a 45 age Lewis would never go 12 with McCall seeing him was floored bad age 29 in 2nd round by McCall . Lewis age 42 cannot beat Mercer & barely did win at age 30.
    you know honestly fat old shot Holmes. made Lewis era look bad. imagine it a prime Holmes with those opponents. complete dominations . no contest

    think Michael Spinks was not good heavyweight. imagine how bad is Mercer & McCall. bums by the comparison.
    & but yet two of the best Lewis faces!
     
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    Lewis was great for his era.
     
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  11. SmackDaBum

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    Chris Byrd was just an extra hanging on from the last millenium. He is a nobody with a Lucky injury against Vitali. Small and weak.

    Makhmudov is avoided. He doesnt get any fights like Hrgovic.

    Hughie is bigger and rangier Than Ali. Doesnt get hit in the face as often (against much bigger and better comp) better inside game. Bums from this era Would be gatekeepers and contenders in Alis era.
     
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    Gets boring, doesn't it?
     
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  13. MarkusFlorez99

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    The fight was competitive. Anybody who actually watched it knows, regardless of injury.
    Has Makhmudov's team given top fighters any offers ? If not then the avoided crap is nonesense. Makhmudov hasn't even had 20 fights yet
    Doesn't get hit in the face as often as Ali ? Are you serious ? Hughie gets clowned by Anybody of note that he fights. Povetkin, Pulev, Parker.

    Hughie has slower feet, slower handspeed, worse reaction time, the weakest jab ive ever seen, terrible counter puncher and is an ever worse inside fighter than Ali which is saying something.

    You're in your own world Smack
     
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  14. MarkusFlorez99

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    I think i understand now. Your opinions are not meant to be taken seriously.

    Hughie Fury would DESTROY Ali !
     
  15. Cage

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    so the same person who got his ass floored and had to push to survive the onslaught of a guy who everyone regards as having less skill then a potato is the best heavyweight the world has ever seen huh?

    sad. . .