Ingemar Johansson vs Joe Frazier

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Prime for prime.

    Might this be more interesting than some would think?
     
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  2. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It won't be interesting for long for poor Ingo.
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    JWSoats Active Member Full Member

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    Have to go with Joe by the middle rounds, but Ingo could make it interesting while it lasts.
     
  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I suppose if Oscar could put Joe down, perhaps so could Ingo.

    But I hasten to add, Ingo eventually gets mauled and smashed.
     
  6. ivancho

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    I like smoking joe but I think he is kinda overrated because he gave hell to Ali, Ingemar johanson had dinamite in his hands so he has a chance everyone suddenly forgot how easily destroyed Machen the same guy who fought Frazier when old . I would favor smoking joe 60-40 but this is not a mismatch. Frazier was also a slow starter
     
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  7. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It would be interesting to see what would occur if Ingo landed the hammer onto Joe early on if Joe was making one of his customary slow starts.
    You’d have to favour Joe though to overpower Ingo and I don’t think it would necessarily go into the second half of the fight for him to do it.
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Frazier in about 2 ..
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Agree. I would pick Frazier to win by stoppage but he might have to take a few big ones before it happens. Probably a good action fight.
     
  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Ingo is a sneaky puncher who can start quickly, and who smashed another aggressive champion with active head movement and great left hook.

    Frazier starts slowly. He could get hit with right hands cleanly. He's a 60s sized heavyweight just like Ingo.

    This isn't a foregone conclusion.
     
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  11. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Is the three knockdown rule in effect? This is a fight where it might actually have a major impact. I'd give Ingo a decent shot at putting Frazier down three times in a round. But I don't think Ingo is likely to put Frazier out for a full 10 count. Not with the way Frazier kept insisting on getting up.
     
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  12. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Frazier by knockout inside 3 rounds
     
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  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Joe Frazier almost never stopped a GOOD fighter inside of 3. I don’t place ingo in the same category as Manuel Ramos or Dave Ziglewicz
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Ingo had nice, light feet but he ain't keeping away from this threshing machine.

    I also don't recall him throwing lots of uppercuts which would serve him well here.

    Joe KO8
     
  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    An eighth round KO for Joe Frazier is a very reasonable prediction
     
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