Joshua all-time ranking after hypothetically beating Usyk, then Fury, then Wilder, then retiring

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  1. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As far-fetched as the idea may be, it's not exactly impossible and I'm curious to know where you would rank him had that happened.

    I've been rewatching his fights and trainings today and it looks to me like he's generally underrated these days.

    He's not stellar in any particular aspect of the game - except athleticism - but good to very good in all of them except, perhaps, the chin. Very good power, underrated skills, heart, work ethics and willingness to learn and develop make him a challenge to anybody, including Fury (even if I wouldn't bet on him in this particular fight, things happen at HW).

    He surely has the deepest heavyweight resume of all the current champions and contenders. He's an Olympic gold medalist who from the very start set the bar high for himself as a pro. Didn't built his record fighting cans and until Usyk he beat every opponent he's ever faced which is quite impressive to think looking at his boxrec page.

    He would have to be VERY high, surely?
     
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  2. TheShellofKell

    TheShellofKell Nakatani Future P4P #1 Full Member

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    This is the reason you have 4500+ posts and 29 likes........ keep quiet please.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol: quality hate
     
  4. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All my likes are from a few days since I came back from before-there-were-likes-on-here era :nonono
    But I take it that you don't find my scenario plausible enough to entertain the thought
     
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  5. DerpDiDerp

    DerpDiDerp New Member Full Member

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    I don't mean to derail your thread OP but I'd be very interested to see how people would rate Usyk if he beat AJ, Wilder, and Fury.
     
  6. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Hypothetically - there is 1% chance of happening
     
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  7. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    No chance of the overrated bodybuilder beating Usyk, Fury or dare I say Wilder. 000000000000000% chance.
     
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  8. AliHolmesMayweather

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  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Top 10, easily.

    I'd say he's up there with Lewis.
     
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  10. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Wilder is very doable for AJ, I would favour him to win actually.

    I doubt he pulls off the Usyk mauling but there's certainly a reasonable chance he wins, especially since we don't really know how the war situation plus possibly weight gain and aging affect Usyk.

    In a fight with Fury he would probably need some "luck"/extraordinary circumastances to win, I agree.
     
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  11. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    I think Wilder would KO Joshua. Wilder has a good chin and knocked down a very skillful heavyweight in Fury a total of 4 times I believe and so he will land on AJ who's not as skillful as Fury and has a more suspect chin. Just one of those punches that landed on Fury lands on Joshua and it's all over. Usyk is too skillful for AJ, he's got a puncher's chance, but I don't see AJ winning the rematch. Fury is too skillful for AJ and if Wilder couldn't knock him out what makes AJ think he could?
     
  12. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lets say a very close and controversial, but not outrageous decision vs Usyk (losing most rounds but making up for them with a couple od knockdowns).

    A "lucky" KO of Fury, who's handling him quite easily but gets too comfortable and it suddenly turns out the Wilder fights damaged his chin very much.

    And a late KO of Wilder who had his moments but couldn't land the eraser and lost most rounds on the way.
     
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  13. AliHolmesMayweather

    AliHolmesMayweather New Member Full Member

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    Well if these situations were to happen, he'd be low on the HW ATG rankings.
     
  14. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    top 15. Maybe just maybe in the lower half of the top 10.

    Remember him beating these guys would be very impressive but it wouldn't change that Joshua has more than a few significant weaknesses and the loss to Ruiz and struggling vs old man Klit would always hurt his legacy.

    Still, beating Usyk, Fury and a aging but still dangerous Wilder would help things tremendously. If you take these 3 wins plus a couple of up and comers (Jalalov, Hgrovic etc.), then a top 10 spot may be achievable.
     
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  15. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    More chance of Inoue beating Usyk then Fury then Wilder before retiring .
     
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