How does Usyk do against these past great heavyweights in their primes?

Tyson was faster and a bigger puncher than Nistor and Chisora but he was also a lot smaller: 20 lbs lighter than Nistor and 40 lbs lighter than Chisora. Usyk was never in any real trouble against the much heavier southpaw Nistor or Chisora, able to ride out the pressure for 1-2 rounds before they slowed down. Tyson's stamina was vastly inferior to Usyk's and he's the naturally smaller man, he couldn't hope to impose himself physically on Usyk early as Chisora could.

If the iron chinned, extremely tenacious, supremely skilled and conditioned Usyk gets out of the first 4 rounds (as many of prime Tyson's opponents did, many of whom were far less tough and athletic than Usyk) then Tyson would be in a world of trouble against the multi-dimensional GOAT southpaw (one-dimensional Tyson's experience against southpaws being ZERO). Take away Tyson's A-side advantage and he's going to perform even worse still.

Based on the evidence of both men's careers, I don't see why Tyson would have any more than a small punchers chance.

 

I actually think Ali would win.

Recently compared Ali's performance against Mildenberger to Usyks performance against Hunter and Bellew. Usysk jabs would give Ali serious problems compared to anything else but he does perfer to try an get closer when he wants to land a lead left hands. He wouldn't throw straight lefts nearly as much as mildenberger from farther away and Ali would keep it long as much as possible, while landing a lot of jabs like Bellew did before he gassed. When Usyk lands a big left and follows up, Ali will angle out and barely escape because he has the footspeed advantage. Ali won't be very reactive towards Usyks feints because he wasn't very reactive against Mildenbergers, he'll just move around the ring and Usyk will chase him down, jabbing and pressing the issue. Ali will be slipping and circling to the left a lot and Usyk will have trouble scoring combinations.

 

Do you really think a fight where Ali dropped someone 3 times before stopping him & Ali was never in real anger of going down was "life & death"?
Link the compubox #s, at least-assuming they are accurate, many contest them-that is something tangible.

You did not argue that Compubox records are better than the others-& neither of us know if it is, or Ali had more wins & less losses that that.

You did not address that losing a small percentage of many amateur fights when you are a kid until 18, & 2 being lefty's does not mean much at all.
I can respect that you favor Usyk, but it is an extreme & untenable position that it is a joke to think Ali could be competitive.
Take an unpopular opinion, not the most extreme one on the other side.

 

He did not win four rounds and all the rounds won bu Usyk were won conclusively, J looked completely befudled in there and Usyk was pulling away at the end with AJ floundering on the ropes completely spent.

 

Briedis was able to press Usyk in spots and give him fits but he's not as massive as Tyson nor is his styles even a fraction as agressive.

Faulty logic to suggest Tyson couldn't put it on Usyk simply because he's smaller than Chisora

 

Bellew didn`t gas Usyk simply adapted, Usyk is far more skilled than Bellew.

 

Bellew gassed. Usyk mentally wore him down. Ali had an excellent gas tank and could move around the ring for all 15 rounds until the 70s

 

He would beat Pete Radamacher and Tunney Hunsaker, but I don’t know about the rest.

The man has beaten THREE (3) heavyweights in his career. This thread is years premature.

 

AJ would have beaten most of Ali`s opponents and Chisora would have bet a lot of them too.

 

I won't be surprised if Joshua knocks him out this time and I don't even like Joshua but I have a funny feeling

 

Beats wlad ,Walcott ,dempsey. I don't know about Louis. He loses to the rest.

 

I agree absolutely 110% without a doubt with your picks of Lennox, Tyson & Wlad over Usyk, all spot on, right as rain!

It's all the other picks that you've gotten wrong, unfortunately.

 

AwardedSteak863,

Ha!

Why would Mike have had to have stopped him inside of 3 rounds??

Who says that Usyk would have put him down?

Based on what?

Usyk only has respectable power.

He hasn’t got the power to have deterred Mike from aggressively pouring forward at every opportunity.

Usyk has nothing to have kept Mike off of him.

Yeah, Mike could dig down deep and win a fight late.

He didn’t need a knockout to win.

You really think Usyk’s amateur experience would have given him an advantage here?

Every fighter ages differently depending on a number of different factors.

Yeah. And one guy tore up the HW division at 20, whilst the other one went life and death with Mairis Briedis at CW, and has only had 3 pro fights at HW.

If you really think that Mike was a 4 round fighter, then you have no real knowledge of him.

You obviously missed the two Ruddock fights.

The claims that Mike wilted under pressure or when his opponents weren’t intimidated are a myth.

It doesn’t matter. Because even if you’re correct, he didn’t have to be.

The only thing relevant, is how they’d have matched up on the night.

The stylistic match up favoured Mike.

Iran Barkley wasn’t half the fighter that Thomas Hearns was.

Marcos Maidana was a crude, B-C level guy who’d lost to Amir Khan. Yet he gave Floyd Mayweather hell in their first fight, which was just 8 months after Floyd had schooled Canelo. You think Maidana was half the fighter that Canelo is/was?

My prediction would have been a decision win for Mike, where Usyk was constantly backed up under immense pressure, where he’d have fought quite defensively.

Again, I love Usyk. So there’s no Tyson fan boyism here. But don’t tell me that Mike wouldn’t and couldn’t have been favoured, when Usyk barely beat Breidis, and Mike possessed more speed, more power, and where he was incredibly aggressive, when Usyk hasn’t got a huge jab or huge power to have deterred him from constantly pressuring him.

I don’t know why you are arguing anyway.

My initial point is that Short Round had only looked at just one factor out of many others that are also extremely relevant.