Alexis Arguello vs Edwin El Chapo Rosario at 135 lbs, both prime, 15 rounds.

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  1. Richard M Murrieta

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    Alexis Arguello vs Edwin El Chapo Rosario at 135 lbs, both prime, 15 rounds. Could have Alexis outboxed Rosario early, then scored the knockout? Or would have El Chapo surprised the boxing media, scoring a stoppage as in his title winning fight against tall lanky Livingstone Bramble? Your thoughts.
     
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  2. Fergy

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    Would be a fantastic fight!
    To me, Arguello gets the win. Stopping Rosario in around 9/10 rounds.
    But he may find himself on the canvas himself first.
    The winner may look as battered as the loser!
     
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  3. Richard M Murrieta

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    I have always thought that Alexis would have a very tough night in winning.
     
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    Definitely, buddy.
    Would take him all he's got to hang in there, imo.
     
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  5. Dynamicpuncher

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    I think Arguello knocks him out personally, Rosario's style is perfect for the pin point accurate punching of Arguello.

    Arguello had more issues vs boxers, but excelled vs fighters vs Rosario. Rosario for me is too hittable and a class below Arguello, Rosario might have some moments early on rocking Arguello few times Rosario had alot of power, but the extra class and accurate punching of Arguello would prevail and I don't think Rosario makes it past 10.
     
  6. Cobra33

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    I think Arguello get s him in under 6 rounds with Rosario besting Arguello to the punch in the first couple of rounds and then Arguello times Rosario and drops the right-hand.
    I can even see Rosario shaking up Arguello at times.
     
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  7. Mod-Mania

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    Arguello get's off the floor to stop Rosario late.
     
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    Arguello's jab would be the key.
    Arguello would have a 4" height
    advantage, and a 6" reach.
    Arguello could find his butt on the canvas
    early on, but he was a class level better
    overall than Rasario, and would have key physical advantages. He would get up
    get that jab on track, and punish Rasario from long range to the head and body.
    As Rasario began to slow from Arguello's body attack
    One of those laser like right hands from Arguello would find
    it's mark and stop Rasario in his tracks. If he isn't ko'ed
    out right, he'd be in no condition to continue, forcing the
    ref to stop the fight with in 10rds.
    Arguello by ko.
     
  9. salsanchezfan

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    If you hurt Rosario, he's finished. I can't envision a fight like this where Arguello isn't able to hurt Rosario.

    Simple as it seems, I think it boils down to that.
     
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  10. Reinhardt

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    They are on different levels, Rosario was good, but not that good.
     
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  11. mr. magoo

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    I think Arguello’s speed and skill would see him to the win but Rosario was a dangerous fighter. He was good at barreling his way to the inside and could really punch. Alexis would have to work for the win.
     
  12. Richard M Murrieta

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    To me it would have reminded me of Rosario's loss to Jose Luis Ramirez on Nov 3 1984 by a TKO 4.
     
  13. Saintpat

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    I’ll go against the grain here and pick Chapo.

    My long held opinion is that AA peaked at 130 and that his success thereafter was selective. Jose Luis Ramirez put him down and deserved the decision. Andy Gannigan, a rough guy with minimal skill but a good punch, also put him down and gave him hell. Ray Mancini, young and unpolished, pushed him and had surprising success before Arguello’s experience kicked in when they reached the championship rounds. Jim Watt was pedestrian and at 140 Aaron Pryor was just too much.

    So I think Chapo falls barely on the right side of the scales tipping in his favor at 135. He was strong, powerful and a natural lightweight. He, too, was calculating and had the ability to drop bombs and to set them up.

    Arguello at feather and super feather are a tough out for the very best ever in those divisions and a bridge too far for anyone below that level. At 135 and up, he’s good but not great. Chapo wasn’t great either, but IMO good enough.

    Chapo by KO in 10 or 12.
     
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  14. Richard M Murrieta

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    Sadly I have to agree, I remember when Alexis Arguello nearly tore off the lip of the Snake Man Alfredo Escalera on Jan 28 1978, winning the WBC Junior Lightweight Title with a TKO 13.
     
  15. Dynamicpuncher

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    Well Rosario also got a highly controversial decision vs Ramirez himself, and was stopped by him in the rematch. He also had his own issues vs other fighters, like barely scrapping a decision against Howard Davis Jr and a green Frankie Randall. The issues Arguello had vs Ramirez, Ganigan, i believe was the Southpaw stance. And as for Mancini whilst he may of been green, it was arguably one of his finest performances. And i'd argue that version of Mancini would put up a very good challenge vs Rosario aswell.

    I agree Arguello was better at the lower weightclasses, but i still think he was a class above Rosario IMO. And also had enough power himself to stop Rosario, who's chin may of been a bit suspect.