Does Oleksandr Usyk defeat the top 10 heavyweights?

I think AJ fought a hell of a fight .. Usyk is simply a terrific fighter and style wise a very tough match up for him, too fast, insane chin and conditioning .. AJ hit him with some monster shots to the haeaqd and body

I think AJ fought a hell of a fight , left it all in the ring and simply was decisioned by a terrific fighter who style wise is too fast for him .. Usyk is a warrior with insane stamina and tough as all hell .. AJ's straight up skill set is the wrong style .. AJ hit him with some monster shots and Usyk survived .. if AJ wants to, I feel the man that fought last night could beat Fury who is not as fast nor takes as good a shot and he certainly beats Wilder as well .. AJ has nothing to be ashamed of ..

 

Not gonna lie, I think AJ had the skill set to win yesterday. He just hasn’t been the same since Ruiz knocked him out and has been to afraid to let his hands go.

 

Usyk isn't anything special, flat footed leaves his hands too low no dynamic movement whatsoever, he has good defense and head movement when he needs to but it's one dimensional he slips and blocks and then pauses, the saying goes "don't just make him miss, make him miss and counter" Usyk is more along the lines of "make him miss and then just stand there" at least he throws combinations and they have speed but they are weak/arm punches

he stands no chance against anyone that is legitimately an ATG, AJ caught him a few times when he had his hand low, the difference is if it was Louis, Marciano, Frazier, Foreman, Tyson, Bowe etc catching him it would be over right then and there

even the Holmes that fought Tyson would have his number, I know I give Holmes grief about being cheap and boring with his repeated jabs and one twos, but the fact is even though it's basic there was a technical mastery the likes of which Usyk has never faced

in round 1 Usyk caught AJ with a jab and AJ covered up and didn't even try to counter even though he had the reach advantage and Usyk left his far hand low, Holyfield would capitalize on those kinds of gaps and easily get a knockdown or knockout

 

I could see him puzzling Foreman for a min but I think he catches him with one of those looping uppercuts or overhand bombs and then I think it’s curtains. As far as Bowe I was using the best version of him as an example, the one that beat Holyfield in the first fight, but I could definitely see any other version of Bowe having trouble with Usyk. AJ Was able to stun him but could never follow up with more than one punch it seemed, Credit to Usyk’s slippery nature, but many of these guys on these lists are fantastic combination punchers.

 

1 Louis- 50-50 Maybe?TBH I wouldn’t bet against either guy
2 Ali- 60/40 Ali- I wouldn’t feel confident betting against Usyk
3 Holmes- Probably Holmes again 60/40
4 Lewis- I favor Lewis and envision him winning
5 Wlad- Probably Wlad
6 Foreman- Foreman should win, but the longer it goes Usyks chances increase
7 Holyfield- a true 50-50 fight that I would love to see at CW or HW
8 Tyson- Tyson stops him
9 Frazier- I think Frazier outworks him for a decision
10 Marciano- 50-50

 

My top five H2H are Ali, Liston, Foreman, Holmes and Tyson. I think Usyk gets swept against them.

 

I wouldn't say so. Current trash media hype really dilutes what it means to be an ATG heavyweight. The likes of Holmes, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, or Tyson, were experienced beasts with splendid corners and dedication born of hunger and ambition.

A lot depends on how he handles Fury (probably the heavyweight superfight of the decade), but I can already see him beating the likes of Marciano, Johnson, or Dempsey. Granted, both Jack and Rocky would make Joshua look like a ******ed kitten.

 

1) Ali - No
2) Louis - Possibly
3) Lewis - No
4) Holmes - No
5) W. Klitschko - No
6) Foreman - No
7) Frazier - No
8) Tyson - No
9) Liston - Yes
10) Marciano - Absolutely

 

He takes every pre-Louis heavyweight and goes .500 with Louis himself in a series.

 

No, since he hasn't beaten Fury and thereby acquired the magic, invisible armor that allows lineal champions to fight each other on even terms.

 

I don’t talk to dinny’s

 

Wlad is a horrible style matchup for Usyk. People forget about what Wlad used to do.

Usyk would beat Foreman (i.e. doesn’t get knocked out), Johnson (talent pool was in the shallow end), and Dempsey (see Tunney fights).

He’d be competitive with Frazier, Liston, Bowe, 70s Ali, Holyfield, Wilder, Fury and Holmes. He’d get some wins there.

Both K bros, 60s Ali, Lewis, Louis and Tyson would be his biggest problems.

 

I need to change my mind on Marciano against Usyk. I am now convinced that Marciano would crater Usyk's midsection. Marciano was so damn strong that even blocked punches on the arms made opponents wince in pain. Usyk has no advantage on stamina and Marciano would walk him down at will. It will get ugly for Usyk and he would be fortunate if did not end up in the hospital.

 

Impossible to know. Based on his small sample size I would think he was have hard time with pressure fighters that could bang like Frazier and Tyson. Marciano would be too slow and too small. I think he would give some sluggers real problems Foreman and Liston. Foreman lost in his prime to Ali and Jimmy Young. With Usyk’s speed of hand and foot and his incredible gas tank it’s plausible he could do the trick. Foreman was wide open often and not nearly as defensively responsible as Joshua. If he don’t blast Usyk - who is gifted at covering up and moving Foreman would be in a nightmare by round 5. I could see him giving Lewis real trouble as well. Lewis never fought a lefty of quality in his entire career. Rumor was he struggled mightily with them - no Byrd, no Sanders, no Moorer. Just listening to Joshua say how things would of been different if not for Usyk’s left hand style shows how lefties can cause issues for certain fighter. Lewis might lose. I don’t think Usyk could beat Holyfield, Wlad, Frazier, Tyson, Holmes, and preexile Ali.

 

Can't rule out Liston quitting and Foreman seeing Jesus in the overhead lights after round 6.