Has The Usyk V Joshua Fights, Changed Anyone s Opinion, Regarding Older Fighters Being Successful?

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  1. Flea Man

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    You have nothing to offer society.
     
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    Usky has overturned a few popular notions on their head.

    Many of us assumed that if we had another Ring Magazine champion the size of Usky, that they would be a wrecking machine.

    We didn't expect such a man to be a jester.

    We assumed that the way for a bigger man to fight a guy like Usky was very negatively.

    Now we are asking why Joshua didn't go after Usky harder.

    Usky is mixing things up, and that is all good!
     
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    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Nope I did not miss the point.
    I made a separate valid point regarding body & muscle mass per square inch.
    Let us say someone is 7' tall & Usyk's weight, while we can cite advantages in height & reach, the giant man will have less strength since he has much less muscle per inch.
     
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    Makes me wonder what Muhammad Ali couldve done with some Testosterone propinate and HGH
     
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    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    This is a great point!
    Same reason I like a Wilder or Ruiz to be able to win-& to counter the body fascism that everything must be bigger & stronger-& often drugged up-that there is only one way & physical type to win.
     
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  6. janitor

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    I honestly think, that a major part of a fighter looking like a Greek God, is psychological.

    A major part of a training camp is psychological.

    Yes you are making physical improvements, and they all help, but you are persuading yourself that you are superman for the day!
     
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    being dead . or around 70+ years age old
    goes against fighter from the past!
     
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  8. Fergy

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    It doesn't help does it! Lol
     
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    Nope. Same as always, boxing wins boxing matches. If it’s reasonable.
     
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    You made a completely irrelevant point.
     
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    :lol:

    Another butt hurt believer!!
     
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  12. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    Top normal sized HW's can beat the S-HWs, but there comes a point where the Height & Reach disparity becomes a major obsticle.

    i.e Fury vs Usyk at at least 6 inches to 1 odds on.
     
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    Flea Man, I see you were vicious to a man who merely wrote a friendly opinion you diasagreed with above, which someone else just called you on for being a "butthurt believer". The exchange:

    Channy: Herbie Hide who is much smaller Than AJ i believe would have stopped him late, i would even go as far to say that Scott Welch would have kicked his arse.

    Flea: You have nothing to offer society.

    You are both wrong-factually & morally-to be abusive from the security of anonymity...
    And you cannot know if Channy has MORE to offer society than you.

    Why be a part of the sickening contempt that in a small way hurts the forum, your credibility...And society?

    You admitted by default I did not "miss the point", now to tell you why it is relevant.
    It is not an obscure & at all difficult to glean.
    The subject & thread is about whether folks re-evaluated if older fighters are now viewed in a more favorable light, & surely you know a big part of that is whether they have a better chance against more modern ones.

    So when you discuss size as a clear indication of whether a man is competitive...
    You are not alluding to fat, but muscular mass & strength.
    Thus it is very reasonable to note when a fighter like Frazier has as much functional mass as a taller one (especially below his waist), that would argue for him being more viable against many.
    Just like Tyson can be dinged for limited height & reach, but his lean muscle mass for his verticality is impressive & part of his power & punch resistance.


    I do not care if you agree or not-as long as you do not harm this forum & are decent to people.
    I'll check as necessary to see if you have been projecting psychological problems & hate on people for years.
    I don't care how long you have been here; do it again & I report you for abuse.
     
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  14. Fergy

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    That's it mate. Got to be reasonable.
     
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  15. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    Well done, this forum has always had a few Hitmen, who love to attack, insult and try to marginalise people, even in serious conversation, where they will even blank Documented Fact to promulgate their view.

    Disgusting really, in over 20 years on Forums, I have never thought to act this way, nor do I ignore anyone, not even the Henchmen.
     
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