Teddy Atlas calls for Glenn Feldman to be put in handcuffs

He took a sh it on Usyk and his under attack country. Comprender amigo?

 

Idiot is an Understatement.

 

Not really. What does a boxing match have to do with a corrupt-ass country exercising a military operation in another corrupt-ass country?

 

Glenn Feldman was a fireman. He was ready for the fire. The heat didn't bother him. They said you have to score the fight with dignity and respect for the sport. He said no. He said I'm going into the fire to pull a check from Eddie Hearn's pocket. Flames don't intimidate him. He controlled the flame, where he wanted.

 

I saw Feldman's name pre-fight and fingered him straight away. It did not surprise me in the least when he turned in that card.

Being a judge should be one of those jobs where if you are doing it right you go unnoticed. When your name starts to precede you something has gone wrong.

 

Atlas, whilst a bit of a tool is saying anyone that takes a bribe should go to jail

Factually he is right

He is at no point saying what he got away with doesn't deserve the same treatment

 

Something tells me Atlas doesn't think it would be okay for Glenn Feldman to show up at his door with a gun tonight and ring the bell.

 

Has he said he think it would ok to do so?

Or is your logic that a person who has done illegal or morally wrong things can't point out or have an opinion when it comes to other(s) wrong doing?

Also, what is your opinion on the Feldman card?

 

Well that's my point

 

My logic is we see bad cards every freaking week in every country all over the world from judges with decades of experience.

We see fans (who have decades of experience watching fights) go crazy every weekend when they don't agree with the judges. (I've been outraged more times than I can count.)

If people disagree with a judge's card, the old chestnut gets trotted out: "he's either incompetent or corrupt ... and nobody can be that incompetent." But every fan who disagrees with the judges have different scores than everyone else, too.

That's why I enjoy being on here on fight nights. Because the opinions you get from people who are all watching the same fight are just ALL OVER the place. And everyone gets mad when people don't see it the same way they do.

But the truth is, Atlas is a moron, and fans can't get any judge "fired."

Judges tend to remain as long as they want and, at the most, they are punished with "more training classes" because the truth is being a boxing judge is a completely thankless job and people don't want to do it for very long.

You have to take training to get licensed. You have to judge sloppy amateur fights and the worst low-level pro bouts. You get no thanks. Little to no money. After your normal workday, you have to go do that for hours and nobody notices or appreciates what you're doing unless they HATE your card and crucify you for it.

The only reason some of these judges have been around for 10, 20 or 30 years is they love it more than anyone else. They love it more than you or I do. They love it more than the fighters do, because most fighters don't stick with the sport after they retire.

Because, I'll tell you, I covered some championship boxing cards as a writer and had a blast. And I covered some low level cards and had fun. But you do that for a year or so just for the enjoyment and the free ringside seats and access, and after a while you're just like, "I don't want to do this anymore. This sucks." You don't care about the next card. You don't care who wins. And you stop doing it.

So, no fans are going to get judges fired .... because they can't keep most judges for any period of time. Hell, some of the best officials and referees in boxing history COMMITTED SUICIDE. And not to be mean, but I can totally see why after spending a couple years covering shitty boxing shows.

If fans hate bad scorecards so much and can't take it anymore, BECOME A BOXING JUDGE.

Get licensed. Become a working judge. Score fights. You'll probably score 30 bouts absolutely right, have one bad scoring fight, and then 10,000 guys on social media will think you're buying new cars with all the "bribes" you're raking in. And by the end you'll be so exhausted you'll hate every fan and boxer associated with it.


As far as the fighters go, if you don't want to worry about a bad decision, knock out your opponent.

Most top pros have a KO percentage above 50 percent. They know how to stop people. You have 12 rounds to do so. Anthony Joshua is a big man. Usyk is a big man. All Usyk and Joshua had to do, if they wanted to take it out of the hands of the judges, was score a knockout. Because, when you don't, the decision is always up for grabs. And opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one.

As far as the decision last Saturday, I thought Usyk won going away. But I also thought it was a pretty uneventful fight, for the most part.

I could also see throughout the early rounds, when really nothing much was happening and Joshua was always completely calm and happy with himself when he sat down on his stool at the end of those rounds, that he thought he was winning (and his fans thought he was winning).

And that proved correct, given Joshua's disbelief that he'd lost afterward. Not to mention the fans and the British media who said to his face after the press conference they thought he was outboxing Usyk until the tenth or they thought Joshua won, too.

Let's face it, if Joshua got the unpopular decision, there would be people on this board and media members in the UK and elsewhere saying he deserved the win because he "looked better" than last time. (I thought they both looked worse.)

As for Atlas, he was worse at his job than the worst judges have ever been at theirs. He even tried to kill a fighter who fired him for being bad at his job. If he thinks judges should go to jail for derailing a boxer's career with a bad card, he should go to jail for derailing the careers of the guys he trained and go to jail for trying to kill Donny Lalonde. He's the worst.

 

Thanks you for a well written reply.

I see your point now and I agree that judging seem to be an ungratefull job. And of course Atlas (and the fans) critique perhaps would serve better going after the system than certain individuals.

Other sports are taking steps toward a professionalization of the referees, where they have a decent salary and a predictable income etc. But with all the other problems and corruption in the sport, having the judges emoloyed by the WBC for example wouldn't necessarily make it better...

However, a bit more insight or transparency on how the scores are given could also help. Maybe tick a box or write a line motivating the score: "10-9, landing the harder punches", "10-9 punch out put". At least in fight of this caliber (although it would perhaps help amateurs looking to improve more). Because the defence of the card from the head?judge was "there many ways and criteria's to judge a round"=none is wrong it's just opinions. I don't think this is a great way to handle critique.

 

The critique by Atlas can be valid while Atlas still did worse things.
Ukraine is not owed anything more than fairness for its citizens in matches like anyone else.

That said it is Orwellian Doublespeak to call a Monstrous war by a psychopathic dictator a "military operation".
Endless numbers of innocent civilians are suffering-including all those not fed by Ukraine now.
And Russian youth are being massacred due to a totally ego driven & delusional dreams of expanding a fascist empire by a man who seized power by not only terrorizing rivals, but murdering many of his own citizens & pretending they were Chechnian terrorist attacks.

In fairness, about what Don King would be as an autocrat.

 

Round 12 given to AJ confirms corruption

 

Good post Dubble & i have thought out many of the points you mentioned & there's always someone around to look on the other side of things,

But all in all the Judges who fone it in shouldn't be judging in the first place especially if there hearts not in it.

 

Teddy is a loose cannon and needs to check himself into a mental facility.