Oleksandr Usyk > Lennox Lewis

Decent post, badly let down by the opening sentence. There's really no need to reach so far to put a negative spin on LL's record to make a case for Usyk.

Lewis is a lock-in ATG heavyweight with a tremendous skill set, that's who you're putting Usyk up against - not a Pravda-style summary of his weakest performances...

 

Did anyone even bother to read it?

 

No

 

Lennox is rated entirely by nostalgia. Thus all of the facts listed are not valid criticisms of his H2H skill but "hate". There is no point trying to debate the Lennox worshipers, they won't even try to make arguments for him.

 

Usyk's HW resume vs Lennox's heavyweight resume.

End of argument.

 

A good collection of controversial victories (Vitali, Golota) and old men (Holyfield, Tyson) for sure. We could debate whether or not Joshua would beat 40 year old 210 pound lost over and over Holyfield all day. But there's no point in that. Usyk wasn't beaten by Rahman, McCall, and Mercer and wasn't outboxed by Frank Bruno for 6 straight rounds. If stopped five times Bruno was leading on the cards vs Lennox, what would Usyk do? H2H, it's hard to imagine Lennox outboxing Usyk if he couldn't outbox Mercer and Bruno.

 

Maybe you are too young to understand the context of the era.
As much as nostalgia can play a part then the opposite is also true.

 

I guess we'll never know, but the reality is Usyk has never really faced any strong adversity at this weight. Joshua spent most of his 24 rounds wondering what the **** he was doing, and only got aggressive in the 21st round out of 24, and was stupid enough to try and outbox him.

The most adversity Usyk has faced was against Chisora.

I want to see him fight a heavyweight who will go in and try and beat him up with some educated aggression, and try often to land bigger shots.

How well he fairs vs Fury will be interesting, depending on whether or not fury actually gives a **** anymore and bothers to train.

 

It's a great fight. Slight edge to Usyk.

Lennox is quoted as saying "If you want to stay champion, don't fight southpaws". You can't read that and not give the HW Southpaw GOAT a very good chance.

 

I'm not arguing that Usyk gets a higher place in the all time HW rankings, that would be absurd. Just that if people have a gun to their head, the rational choice is to pick Usyk in a boxing match.

 

When did he say that ?

 

What?

Lennox Lewis beat 12 heavyweight champions: Klitschko, Holyfield, Tyson, Rahman, Bruno, Mercer, Morrison, Akinwande, Briggs, Tucker, McCall and Weaver.

Oleksandr Usyk beat ONE heavyweight champion: Joshua.

Lennox Lewis beat heavyweight contenders Tua, Ruddock, Golota, Grant, Mason, etc.

Usyk beat NO top heavyweight contenders.

Usyk beat five cruiserweight champs: Bellew, Gassiev, Briedis, Huck and Glowacki.

Lewis beat two cruiserweight champions: McCrory and Ocasio.

Lennox Lewis beat future Hall of Famer and future World Heavyweight Champion Riddick Bowe in the Olympic Finals.

Oleksandr Usyk beat Clemente Russo in the Olympic Final, who never turned pro. (Is Italy a communist country? Why didn’t Russo turn pro?)

In a 14-year pro career, Lewis only lost two fights. Both were via one-punch KO. And he won both rematches. Lewis never lost a decision.

If you didn't knock out Lennox Lewis with one punch, YOU LOST.

Is Usyk going to one-punch KO Lewis?

Lewis knocked out 32 heavyweights in 40+ fights.

How many heavyweights has Usyk knocked out in 20 pro fights?

I mean, give me a break. Honestly.

 

I shook my head when i see Ossie Ocasio, imagine bringing up Lewis's 11th professional fight, to try and discredit Lennox Lewis resume that's actually baffling. Hell lets go back to Muhammad Ali's 12th professional fight vs "Don Warner" and use that against Ali aswell ridiculous logic.

He also leaves out alot of context in his posts to fit his opinions for example.

Tony Tucker was 48-1 and hadn't lost since losing a decision to Mike Tyson, and was also ranked number 5.

Ray Mercer went through a rough patch with Jesse Ferguson fight, but rebounded and gave Evander Holyfield one of his toughest fights prior to Lewis fight. Lewis was still rebounding as a fighter after his loss to McCall, and Mercer was considered a tough contender to get Lewis ready for a possible fight for Mike Tyson.

I don't see what Tua's weight has to do with Lewis, Tua was ranked in top 5 and considered a very dangerous one punch KO artist. His only loss at that time was a very close decision to Ibeabuchi, Lewis deserves credit for dominating a very dangerous puncher, i don't see why this win should be discredited.

"Holyfield faded" again without the context, yes Holyfield may of been a bit past his best. But it's not quite as simple as that, Holyfield had been champion for 3 years when he fought Lewis, coming off some of his best wins vs Tyson, Moorer 2, and held two of the belts WBA IBF aswell i might add.

And also notice how he doesn't mention Vitali, Mason, Ruddock, Bruno, Golota, Morrison.