Lennox Lewis vs Rocky Marciano

No. He used to walk around at well over 200, and trained incredibly hard, (according to historians, harder than any fighter who ever lived) to get to 185.
He would be weak as a kitten if he decided to dehydrate to light heavyweight or super middleweight.


Though on paper I would favor a peak Lewis because of his size and better skills, I certainly believe Rocky would give even the best version of Lennox pure hell, and I believe he could beat him, due to the fact he was a more dangerous roughhouse fighter than evander.

 

You spent about 5 years on this forum comparing Rocky to Muhammad Qawi, Spinx, Byrd, and multiple other fighter who do not even remotely resemble Rocky in their fighting styles in order to argue Rocky's chances against super heavies. Seamus using the Justine Fortune fight isn't any less ridiculous than the laughable comparisons you've made.

 

Marciano is getting knocked out whether he likes it or not

 

Every fighter that dehydrates to LHW is weak as a kitten on weigh in day. That's why they have a period to rehydrate to their actual weight (which is usually around ten pounds higher). Many LHWs are also around 200 when not training. It's far from uncommon.

Rocky might have trained himself down to his optimum fighting weight, but that was certainly not the lowest weight he could have physically boiled down to using modern weight cutting methods (read: diuretics) else he would not have been in a fit state to fight. The statement about hardest trainer that ever lived is spurious hyperbole; how the hell would anyone know?

Like it or not, anyone who entertains this fight is pitting a LHW against a HW. You can argue for Marciano all you like, but it's sometimes important to bear this in mind before jumping off the deep end.

 

Rocky vs someone like Beterbiev is a much more feasible proposition. Rocky simply isn't a HW by modern standards, whatever he was considered in the past.

 

Outside of Norton where's Shavers's rep for being such a crushing puncher? Where are his ATG knockout victories?

 

Jimmy Ellis for one. Jimmy Young for two. Roy Tiger Williams for three. Howard Smith for four. Joe Bugner for five. Jeff Simms for six. Then there are the examples where he decked Larry Holmes and wobbled Ali in losing fights.

what do we have for Hasim Rahman?

 

Yes, I see Holmes as better than Louis, I've always seen it that way.
Prime vs prime, for me Louis is nowhere near the top 10 all time.
But I have him top 2 achievements wise.

 

Marciano's got this. What answers would Lewis have against the Brockton Blockbuster? The man busted blocks for God's sake. Not to mention Lewis's block has been busted before..twice!!!

Simple mathematics.= Rocky Marciano by a knockout.

 

Remember the day as this thread contains one of the most noteworthy achievements in ESB history.

choklab has actually schooled someone. It takes me back to Tyson - Douglas, Becker winning Wimbledon in 85, Raducanu the U.S.O. last year, The Patriots in 2002, Greece winning euro 2004, the Miracle on Ice and so much more.

Who woulda thunk?

 

I rest my case

 

Again. Choklab has schooled someone again.

I think that’s what you meant.

 

That’s right. Shavers was indeed a murderous puncher, just not quite champion material.

That’s why shavers punching prowess is more famous than Hasim Rahmans reputation as a puncher

 

Are we really comparing Rahman to Shavers in terms of power? Who did Rahman KO other than an overconfident off guard Lewis and the pudgy inconsistent Sanders? What durable opponents did he knock out or knock down? Which fighters who had never been KOd before we're KOd by Rahman? How many guys retired after getting their ass kicked by Rahman? How many 1st/early round KOS did he score? Where are the highlight reels of Rahman destroying guys with punches that look like gunshots? Where are the hilarious quotes of people saying Rahman hit harder than anyone else they faced? Why isn't Rahmans KO% very high? If he was that devastating it would be the talk of the 90's. He was a blip in HW history who earned his 30 minutes of fame against Lewis at just the right time. The fact McCall had already won basically the same way years prior further proves Rahman was mostly in the right place at the right time.