Is Fury going to duck Usyk

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  1. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Does Fury expect someone to pay him HALF a billion dollars just to fight Usyk? Who is going to ascertain this amount? Does Elon Musk watch boxing?
     
  2. fencik45

    fencik45 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Looking to price himself out.
     
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  3. ShortRound

    ShortRound Active Member banned Full Member

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    "The fact is that the last few eras have (with a few rare exceptions) sucked."

    The 90's was regarded as a sh*t era at the time with glass jawed British-Canadian hypejob Lewis getting starched by journeymen/fringe contenders and featherfisted blown up 190 pounder Holyfield going life and death with old timers from the 70's.

    Critiques of the present era have always existed but became more prominent when Soviet boxers came to dominate the division. Suddenly the Americans were out in the cold with bruised egos.
     
  4. MrBarry465

    MrBarry465 Active Member Full Member

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    Not really, he's just asking for a stupid sum up front and it will get brought back down to 100 million.

    Even Frank rolled his eyes yesterday as if to say 'why do you take this **** seriously?'
     
  5. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The more I read your posts, the more obvious it is about your lack of knowledge. Clearly you did not live through any of the past eras you claim to know about. You are a typical General Forum fan boy who knows little about the history of the sport.
     
  6. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury spent most of his early pre pro career not able to get fights because he's a literal giant with a big Johnson. Ducking is not in his vocabulary. Same with Usyk.
     
  7. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Of course not. Worst case scenario he gets outboxed and walks away with a Euromillions check.
     
  8. ShortRound

    ShortRound Active Member banned Full Member

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    "Clearly you did not live through any of the past eras you claim to know about."

    Being a cantankerous old fart who always complains about the present era doesn't make you objective.
     
  9. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Apparently you are too stupid for rational debate.
     
  10. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He will only fight Usyk for really big money.

    Because he knows how good Usyk is and that its a 50-50 fight.
     
  11. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    1-It was mostly Tyson fanboys butthurt that he was getting his ass kicked who claimed the 90'a HW scene sucked. We got epic classics like the Holyfield Bowe trilogy, Foreman's amazing comeback win, Ruddock vs Morrison, Moorer vs Cooper, Tua vs Ike, Mercer vs Lewis, Mercer vs Cooper, Mercer vs Holmes, Lewis vs Briggs, etc. Some of the best HW action of all time happened in the 90's. People are just fickle and obsessed with the idea of a highly charismatic personality ruling over the division.

    2-If you're referring to the Klitschko era, no, the lack of a major American presence isn't the primary reason people complained. The two brothers were leagues ahead of most of the rest of their competition. You had these gigantic dudes just easily destroying 80% of their opponents and oftentimes they were boring until the inevitable KO. That gets old. Even Godzilla needs rivals, which is why they always come up with bigger and badder monsters for him to fight. To make matters worse, the Klitschkos refused to fight each other. We literally did not know who was the best HW on the planet for more than a DECADE with no undisputed champions or major unifications. There's a reason the most memorable Klitschkos fights are often ones where we saw them struggle or lose (which was rare), such as Vitalis 2 losses, the Peter fights, Wladmir's series with Brewster, the Sanders and Joshua losses, etc.
     
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  12. ShortRound

    ShortRound Active Member banned Full Member

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    "You had these gigantic dudes just easily destroying 80% of their opponents and oftentimes they were boring until the inevitable KO"

    "To make matters worse, the Klitschkos refused to fight each other."

    This sounds exactly like the 90's, with Bowe and Lewis not fighting each other but dominating a series of overmatched and usually much smaller opponents. There were plenty of good fights in the Klitschko era but Americans had tuned out because they weren't the driving force in the division anymore.
     
  13. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    A senile puppet in the US (a broke nation) just gave Ukraine $1B probably because he's been doing dodgy deals with them for years so needs to keep them hush

    Giving Fury half of that will be easy for the Sauds. Pocket change...their annual sports washing budget exceeds $1b anyway.
     
  14. Put to the test

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    Usyk has now given the 2 best & biggest HW's on the planet mental breakdowns

    Legend
     
  15. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Lewis and Bowe had "boring" fights? Which ones? The only time I got hired watching Lewis was when he fought Tua and decided to play it safe with a cautious style. Lewis had plenty of exciting matches: Briggs, Golota, Holyfield, Ruddock, etc. Bowe also had some fun fights with Holyfield, Gonzales, Hide, Tubbs, etc. I'd love to hear which "boring" fights the two big guys of the 90's were in.

    Wladmir was boring because his plan A, B, and C was to jab, grab, reset, jab, 1-2, jab, grab, grab over and over. He panicked if this didn't work and rarely opened up unless he knew the opponent was badly hurt. He was much more excitig when he was younger. Wladmir was literally deducted points for excessive holding. Two of the best opponents he faced (Haye and Povetkin) had ludicrous amounts of holding and it heavily affected the outcome.

    Vitali opened up and let his hands go, but most of his fights got boring because he was so dominant he could just stand there teeing off on guys round after round until the ref stopped it. You couldn't pay me to sit through the Briggs or Arreola fights again. There just wasn't anyone around who could have really brought out the best of him besides his brother.

    You claim there were "plenty of good fights during the Klitschko era" which ones???? I must have missed them. In the 90's you didn't just have Lewis and Bowe, you also had Hoylfield, Moorer, Foreman, Mercer, Morrison, Tua, etc. Wtf are you talking about? There were plenty of exciting contenders and champions in the 90's.

    The only valid point you made was that Bowe vs Lewis not happening was a travesty and I blame both guys if we're being brutally honest.
     
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