Lennox Lewis vs Rocky Marciano

I'd bet on Marciano. He had an unparalleled will to win.

 

All heavyweights punch hard…but if your going to rule out shavers or Marcianos ability to reproduce the right hand that Rahman used on the basis that Rahman hit harder.. then I don’t know what to say.

 

I don't believe I claimed that Rahman hit harder than Shavers. He might have done with that one shot he landed on Lewis, which was as flush and turned over a right hand as any thrown, but overall his body of work didn't show the same sort of heavy handedness as Shavers.

But he could punch; that shouldn't be in question. He was a massively strong near 240lbs fighter with wrecking ball sized fists who threw his full weight into his OH right out of a low stance. So a harder puncher than Marciano, a modern day LHW? Yeah, I'll make that claim for sure.

His main problems were that he wasn't a very smart boxer who moved through concrete for most of his career.

 

I agree. On that same basis, Frazier would have no problem with Foreman. Oh wait.

 

It'll be a replay of Lewis vs Botha, but Lewis crushes him in one round instead of two.

 

The Louis that Marciano fought was a balding, pudgy, bloated shell of his former self who admitted he couldn't pull the trigger on his right hand. What is hilarious is you comparing that version of Louis to what is a close-to-prime Usyk.

 

Lol of course i do, but i never really took a detailed look at this thing.

Well you present no facts, just your personal opinion - which you have every right to have.

bigger size differences have been overcome. Many big HW's,including the great ones, got beat up by far smaller and shorter opponents.

Still, i would favor Lewis but it's never going to be a "party time" for him.

 

obviously its both on their best night of course. Lewis too cute. UD over 12 maybe even a stoppage over 15

 

Rahman didn’t have to be a harder puncher than Rocky to knockout Lewis. He just needed to land the same kind of overhand right..and land flush without Marciano kind of power.

Marciano was not a modern day light heavyweight. He was a short heavyweight.

No. That’s not what I was doing.

you were saying it would be hilarious to compare Usyk to Dempsey and Marciano. Implying the size differential would be comical.

And Im saying what is so hilarious “if Usyk, at 35 was no bigger than a 37 year older Joe Louis”? which states that a comparable size difference had been overcome at world level anyway.

 

Don't think I ever said the difference between Usyk and Dempsey would be comical. Dempsey had a good frame, 6-1, good 77" reach, built like an athlete. Even Marciano wouldn't be comical though it would be pronounced. The comical part would be the talent and skill level between Marciano and Usyk.

 

One hundred percent true.

you would have thought the skill level between Marciano and Charles would be comical. Or the skill level between Archie would have been comical.

The only comical thing is someone not recognising the results of Marciano vs Charles, Moore and Walcott and thinking Usyk was more technically advanced than those three!

I mean Usyk being 35 is obviously something Marciano was used to as well.

it’s ok for a superheavyweight to lose title fights to 35 year old heavyweights a division smaller than he is but it’s not ok for a heavyweight within his own weight class to beat champions of a similar age to Usyk?

 

Moore was a blubbery 185 and had and would have a plethora of defeats on his register.

Charles was a ,500 fighter by the time Marciano braved up to meet him.

Meh.

 

Didn’t your super heavyweight hero AJ lose to a blubbery guy who was naturally a division smaller? Andy Ruiz? Now Usyk..Twice it seems. Two separate examples. Three fights in all.

your going to knock a guy who wins in those situations but say nothing about the guy who loses in those situations?