Usyk v AJ 2 - the 9th round...

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  1. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    Yeah, it was commentary creating the impression that Usyk was in great peril, struck me as obvious that he was fine while watching live. I had a wager on Usyk T/KO, so I was cheering Joshua to keep punching and empty the tank so he'd be at Usyk's mercy for the remaining rounds. :lol:
     
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  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This is completely untrue. You are a fan, but you man need to watch Usyk matches more carefully. And head movement is actually a upper body movement. Some people really doesn't know what they are talking about, when they are talking about head movement(not pointing at you at this one).
    Usyk to me has always had if not, then one of the best body movement through entire divison, and clearly best in CW and HW.
    No one come close to him.
     
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  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He is just making himself smaller target, by "crouching/lowering" like that.
    And one of the main reason was, because AJ was throwing illegal punches behind the head, and was throwing hammerfist, and the pathetic Pabon warned him for 0.1 second, which was pathetic.
    The so call Onslaught start when AJ start throwing dirty punches, and Usyk covered himself perfectly with that position. It doesn't matter how it look, the important thing is to block as many punches as you can. Usyk also play it smart, cause he knew that AJ will blow out his gas tank.
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You didn't have to have him up 7-2 to after 9 to have AJ winning 7-5. Feldman had AJ up 6 rounds to 3 after 9, and he had AJ winning the 12th.
     
  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sounds like you're having wet dreams about Usyk. Canelo's upper body and head movement is far superior to Usyk. Usyk is like a poor man's Canelo when it comes to upper body movement, being elusive and making opponents miss. This was apparant in the first Usyk AJ fight as well. Usyk has a lot of wasted movement, Usyk just moves in random ways awkward ways, there's not much rhythm or timing to it. Canelo don't waste movement. It's much easier to time Usyk and land clean shots on him than it is to time Canelo. AJ proved that. Bivol is a much better boxer than AJ but yet Bivol had more trouble landing clean hard shots on Canelo than AJ did against Usyk.
     
  6. elgoadie

    elgoadie Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed, I also listened to TalkSport's commentary for a few rounds in the UK, who are usually a bit more level-headed than Sky. Even so though, even TalkSport were painting a picture that AJ was on the verge of obliterating Usyk. Really overblown IMO.
     
  7. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ landed a few good body shots but it was nothing like the onslaught some make it put to be.

    The whole fight was pretty much a strategic high pace boxing match. Very close but Usyk always just a little better then AJ.
     
  8. themaster999

    themaster999 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah erm, about Joshua winning the 12th ....
     
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  9. ConfusedGuy

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    You really are the worst poster here. The fact that you can bring up scorecards that are widely criticised by fans, pundits, journalists and other fighters as if they are 100% legit really speaks volumes about the type of fan that you are.

    The only reason you go so far out of your way to constantly remind people about how the judges are always right is because you know that nobody other than you and canelo think that GGG wasn't robbed in the first fight.

    You are in the vast minority in so many scenarios when it comes to scoring fights...are you too stupid or too arrogant to actually sit down and think about what that means?
     
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  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    First of all, I didn't say anything about anything being 100% legit. I didn't object to the scores, but you have free reign to disagree with them. The issue I see is that every time there's a close fight half this forum acts like their hair is on fire. It's not that I think the judges are always right, I disagree with the judges often, but even when I disagree I don't claim a vast conspiracy or corruption. Rather than cry and complain about it, I explain why I scored a round different than they did and then I move on to something else. I don't get in hissy fits with people who see a round differently than I do or the judges. If you want to discuss specific rounds that you find the judges scores were unreasonable then we can have that conversation.

    As I said, people on here are making it out like Round 1 and 3 were clear Usyk rounds. They weren't. They were AJ rounds for me, but when I was watching it, I said maybe those rounds would be split by the judges, and they were. I knew Round 2 was more clear for AJ and all 3 judges were likely to give that round to AJ. Round 2 was more clear of an AJ round than 1 or 3 but 1 and 3 were definitely good AJ rounds and arguable for him as well. Then I saw Round 4 and saw Usyk assert himself and saw that as the first round that Usyk definitely won. The judges scoes didn't surprise me, and you getting mad at me for not having a problem with the judges is dumb. If you disagreed with the judges, that's your issue. I wouldn't have an issue with AJ or Usyk winning because there were enough close swing rounds that could go either way. You could easily have AJ winning by giving him rounds 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 8 and 9. That's 7 rounds and you wouldn't even need to give him the 12th. Feldman gave AJ the 12th but also gave Usyk the 8th, whereas Steve Gray gave AJ the 8th and the other judge gave the 8th to Usyk. So the judges were split on many rounds which happens in close, hard to score rounds like 1, 3, 8, etc. As for Round 12, it was more competitive than round 10 and 11, which were clear Usyk rounds. Round 12 wasn't as clear but still was probably a Usyk round. Does AJ have a better case for winning round 8 than he does for round 12? Probably but I'd have to go back and watch those back again.
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And about 2 judges giving Usyk the 8th. And what about 1 judge giving Usyk the 5th. The same judge who gave Usyk the 5th also gave Usyk the 1st. Feldman was the only judge who gave AJ round 1. Even Mannix, a Usyk fanboy gave that round to AJ.
     
  12. vast

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    Not even close...lol
     
  13. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    You don’t deserve to watch boxing. Usyk was career best, so was Joshua. Don’t talk about exposing when watching someone who is undefeated and a lock for GOAT discussions. You absolute clown
     
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  14. SergioJ91

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    :nono:
     
  15. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    In the 24 rounds that Usyk and AJ boxed, it was Anthony Joshua's best round (Usyk Vs AJ 2; round 9), and that's all. You shouldn't make a drama out of it. Usyk was not about to be knocked out, about to be knocked down, or in serious danger.
    AJ was in greater danger in AJ Vs Usyk 1; round 12
    That is all; it should not be dramatized.