If Fury beats Usyk, where would he rank?

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  1. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Fury would be remembered as a champion who breaks the reigns of other champions and "takes off the zeroes".
    He would also be remembered as the first undisputed heavyweight champion in two and a half decades.
    His resume would no longer be questioned, but haters will always find a loophole.
    Since he is undefeated I see no reason why he wouldn't be tenth on the TOP HW ATG list then.
    The boxer who beats Usyk first will certainly be well remembered in boxing history.
     
  2. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury has not messed up lineage
    only messed up his career by taking years out
     
  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Probably somewhere in the 15-20 range.
     
  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Undefeated with wins over Wlad (old but still dominant), Wilder and Usyk plus Whyte and Chisora... It depends on how conclusive the win over Usyk is, but if it is very clear then he passes the likes of Liston and Vitaly for me.

    This is based on resume. So far he has looked pretty formidable h2h but from a pretty narrow data set of top guys and I'm not very in those comparisons anyhow.
     
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  5. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A clear top 10 all time in terms of greatness.
    And probably even better H2H, perhaps even top 5.
    Even if we go by the premise that there have been more skilled HW champions, his size alone and the fact that he knows how to take advantage of that, make him a huge threat for anyone.
     
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  6. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's an automatic top 10. His career will definitely be better than that of someone like Frazier.
     
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  7. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A certainty for the top 10 heavyweights of all time. And one of the best British fighters pound for pound,ever.
    There would be a major debate as to who was the greatest British heavy ever between Fury and Lennox Lewis.
     
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  8. McGrain

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    If Fury beats Usyk he beats three of the four best of his time, excluding himself.

    Thats ATG material for me.
     
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  9. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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  10. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Lennox has such a deeper resume. I don't think any single win would make it close at all.
     
  11. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if he crush Usyk too easy
    i think might be that persons dismiss Usyk as only great cruiserweight. but very ordinary heavyweight
     
  12. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I'd agree, they've achieved different things, but as heavyweights I think they are reasonably close. But I think Usyk will make several credible defences until age catches up, whereas Fury would continue the circus.

    So I think Usyk would likely ended ranking higher if he wins.

    Fury has just been far too unwilling to regularly fight credible opponents, to really face the diverse challenges and consistency that really makes for true greats.

    Edit: I don't see either the Whyte or Wilder wins aging as great wins. Wilder held a title, but his resume was pretty poor, with his best wins coming over guys with awful resumes themselves. Take away the WBC belt and the Wilder wins are a lot less significant.

    Whyte had some good names, but had had things go his way to get them, and get KOed by a shot Povetkin already. I really don't see Whyte as any higher level a fighter than Chisora, though more consistent. After his efforts against Sokolowski, I don't see the Otto Wallin fight being great in hindsight either.
     
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  13. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Deep down you know I'm right
     
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  14. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Right off the deep end.
     
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  15. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury pisses all over lil ol Frazier
     
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