If Fury beats Usyk, where would he rank?

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  1. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Honest opinion, I can not see 2 decisions win with against AJ aging too well also.
    AJ will not be remembered as great fighter or durable.
     
  2. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I do not believe Usyk likely to put together title reign if he beats Fury
    I do not see that at all

    & even if he did who is there to fight? there are no young fighter heavyweight boxers notables
     
  3. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he barely makes Top 10 SUPER - Heavyweights nevermind found among the Best Heavyweight's throughout history.
     
  4. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Joshua has a deep enough body of work, that the win is credible regardless of what happens in a way wins over Wilder and Whyte aren't IMO.
     
  5. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here's a list of 21 of the Top SUPER - Heavyweights in history (might have missed a few)...

    HASH it out among yourselves.

    SUPER - Heavyweight - 6' 5" or taller.
    Lennox Lewis
    Riddick Bowe
    W Klitschko
    V Klitschko
    Gerry Cooney
    Ernie Terrell
    Tony Tucker
    Michael Grant
    Jameel McCline
    Lou Savarese
    Henry Akinwande
    Jess Willard
    Primo Carnera
    Orlin Noris
    Tyson Fury
    AJ
    Wilder

    6' 4" Top Fighters...
    Carl Williams (BIG Heavyweight, border S-HW)
    Corrie Sanders (BIG Heavyweight, border S-HW)
    Andrew Golota (BIG Heavyweight, border S-HW)
    Dillian Whyte (BIG Heavyweight, border S-HW) ...

    Pit Fury against even half of these, as he has fought No One and see where that leaves him.

    Heck just look at some of the Opponents these S-HWs faced, far better than Fury can even imagine, many of them!
     
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  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    While I certainly agree with this, on the flip side of the equation Wilder doesn’t have losses to guys like Ruiz on his record.
     
  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    If Wilder and Fury had fought Joshua's line up of opponents, I think both would have been pretty likely to have picked up a loss.
     
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  8. lufcrazy

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    Top 10 I reckon
     
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  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    If he puts a reign together and defends against the likes of AJ, Parker, Ortiz, Ruiz, Joyce, Dubois etc I'd probably have him top 3 lock.
     
  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I respectfully disagree. Especially Fury. I don't really see anyone giving him to much trouble on Joshua's conquests when he's on.
     
  11. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "When he's on" is always a quesiton though.
     
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  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Fair point.
     
  13. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    That's exactly why a consistent run of wins against good opponents counts for so much. Everyone will have off nights and bad match ups.
     
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  14. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Usyk and Fury retire I can see Joshua cleaning out the rest of the division, if he retains the desire and gets the fights. A Joshua that still has desire is a clear favourite against Whyte, Ruiz, Hrgovic, Ortiz, Zhang, Parker etc imo. Joyce and Wilder would probably be his stiffest challenges, but I make him a favourite there as well if he stays motivated. I think AJ's last performance against Usyk easily was his best, Usyk is just that bit better. Has that extra mile in the tank and seems too tough and skilled for AJ to KO.

    So if Joshua still sees sense in continuing and stays motivated I can see him being seen as a really good also ran of this era when the dust settles. And Usyk's wins will age well.

    Tbh I can see Joshua beating Fury also (not saying he would, but not a big reach for me), but don't think he'll ever get the chance.
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Top ten lock and obviously ahead of Foreman and Liston.