What Does Tyson Fury Have to Do To Be the Goat

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  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What does Tyson Fury have to do to be the greatest heavyweight of all time?
     
  2. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    He needs to do so much more! At the moment, he isn't even the definitive top heavyweight among active fighters. To be considered in the GOAT conversation, he would need to beat Usyk and then beat the top two or three guys of the next generation when they hit their primes. The problem is that Fury is older and doesn't fight often enough to achieve these goals. He would have to settle for being the heavyweight GOAT of the 2016-2023 era of boxing ... If he beats Usyk.
     
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  3. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    I think Tyson Fury missed the opportunity to be the GOAT with his first "retirement".
    And now to write boxing fiction.
    That Tyson Fury beat Wladimir Klitschko in a rematch, and then his career had 3 fights against Deontay Wilder, along with several other strong challengers (Povetkin, Parker,...), beat Joe Joyce, Oleksandr Usyk, and the next generation of young talents (Bakhodir Jalolov first of all); he would have a chance to be the GOAT.
    Of course, to end his career undefeated.
     
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  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    The goat? Acquisition of tail, hooves, and horns, followed by the extermination of all goats other than himself.
     
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  5. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    He'd probably have to go undefeated in the next 10 years and face 3 opponents each year.

    He'd have the most title defenses by a heavyweight, become the oldest heavyweight champion of all time and retire undefeated from the ring.

    Then he'd have to walk on water and turn it to wine.

    EDIT: He'd have to fight for 13 more years to become the oldest heavyweight champeen.
     
  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    That puts him in the Louis range. On a slow day.
     
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  7. Vic The Gambler

    Vic The Gambler Active Member Full Member

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    Fight more often for a start. That resumé as it stands, stinks for someone who wants to be considered as GOAT.

    I think it’s far too late tbh, but if he could beat a top ten fighter (including Usyk) every 2/3 months for the next 2 years, then he’s knocking at the door. Not much a fighter can do other than beat the best of the rest of their era, then leave the boxing experts and boxing fans to discuss.

    But that obviously is never going to happen, not these days of 1 fight a year, 2 if we’re lucky.

    But the walking on water that someone mentioned above would definitely help!
     
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  8. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He wont have the volume of Joe Louis or probably not even of Larry Holmes but does quality matter? If Fury beats Usyk and Joshua handily and defends his title 6 more times vs top 10 opposition would he be in consideration?

    He would hold wins over Joshua, Usyk, Whyte and Chisora 2x

    He would've ended Wladimir Klitschkos reign

    He would've knocked out Wilder twice

    He'd have 12 championship wins

    I'm just asking for perspective

    Would this be enough?
     
  9. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    laying it out in Point Form does NOT Change the FACTS of his career...

    He beat an OLD Klit at the Very End of Klit's career, that happens to damn near Every OLD Champion.

    He beat Wider Twice, so what.

    ALL of his other opponents were considerably much smaller men and 2cd & 3rd Rate fighters.

    He has Fought NO ONE!!!
     
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  10. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So pretty much you are saying that he can never realistically be the best heavyweight ever
     
  11. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    Become undisputed and defend the titles against at least 12 ranked opponents.
     
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  12. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    Who do you suggest he fights? Going by that logic Holmes fought no one so he’s not great either.
     
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  13. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I try to give credit where it's due, and Fury has 3 wins over Wilder, in my book. There are people ALREADY saying Fury is the all-time best LOL. He has neither the time, nor high enough level opponents, to come anywhere near the ATG top 10, let alone GOAT.
     
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  14. Jason Gordon

    Jason Gordon Active Member banned Full Member

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    That ship has sailed, he is 34.
     
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  15. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I like Fury, find him fascinating and very amusing, respect his exceptional courage and self confidence but he looks a bit off again lately and Usyk is a very, very well conditioned, cool cat .. well see .. as far as all time great, he decisioned a near catatonic Klitschko who was very slow and could not pull the trigger but he certainly didn't dominate him or ever hurt him, just danced to a decision over a man with no legs left .. two huge wins over Wilder but to this day I still don't know what that means scaled as Wilder was the most dangerous one trick pony in heavyweight history .. Whyte was a nice win but his chin is always a question ... will a ref allow a 270 Fury lie all over Usky and will Usyk's badass native crew allow it ? It can be an explosive scene ..
     
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