Usyk vs Evander Holyfield achievements, ATG status

You just suffer from nostalgia. Qawi couldn't beat Gassiev or Briedis. Maybe not even Glowacki, Cruiserweights is just a more stacked division now. Especially considering its 200lbs not 190 like Evander had the luxury of.

 

That's right, you got us - myself and @Safin are definitely the same guy, you can tell from our highly similar posting styles! Did you know that @aaaaa is another alt of ours?

 

Lets see what you actually said - is it "too late" for Usyk to achieve what Holyfield did? He's literally one fight away, and his opponent is the other fighter you have a real issue with - that's gotta sting, one of them will be undisputed.

Usyk could also end his career with 0 defeats. I appreciate the landscape was different in Holyfield's era - but I think if Usyk does go on to beat Fury, he will be remembered in equally high regard, if not higher, than Holyfield.

So no, you're wrong. You said "no matter what he does at 32" he "cannot match up" - that's wrong. He can.

 

is very unlikely Usyk can match Holyfield achievement

 

Biggest compliment I’ve received on the forum there from the sociopath incel. You’ve gone and ruined it by mentioning that simple prat, though!

 

As much as I like Holyfield, Usyk is definitely better than him win or lose against Fury.

 

1. Knocked out cold by Joshua. Punch was an uppercut.
2. Knocked out cold by a forty year old Povetkin. Punch was an uppercut.
   
3. Knocked out by cold by Tyson Fury. Punch was an uppercut.

Knocked down by Rivas. Punch was an uppercut. Only beat Parker via illegal headbutt knock down. I could go on but won't.

To answer your question "What's the issue?" Well, the issue is that Whyte, a professional boxer, cannot block an uppercut and that you, a fan of boxing, were too ignorant to see that this glaring weakness meant he would never accomplish anything other than becoming a meme.

How you could look past this is the issue, it shows how little you know and when everyone was trying to tell you, you blew them off.

So now when we try to talk to you about Usyk, you blow us off. The issue is you are not capable of learning from your mistakes.

Dillian Whyte: The thousand day man.

 

This is interesting - so Fury's best wins are Wilder and Klitschko - what about Whyte?!

I think this forum does rate Joshua, but keeps things in perspective. The backlash he receives on here is mostly about the hyperbole surrounding him, rather than his actual ability.

Obviously Joshua is very good - he's a top 5 HW. It generally seems accepted he's not on the same level as Usyk and Fury and then heavily debated vs Wilder/Ruiz/Joyce/Others.

 

Bit of advice - the straw man argument about whether random forum posters have made as much money as heavyweight boxers isn't nearly as cutting as you think it is.

Your weak arguments would be far stronger if you actually stayed on topic rather than tried to insult people and project your own insecurities

 

Sir, this is a boxing forum. We discuss boxing here.

Your whataboutism shifting the conversation to money aside, you didn't discuss, debate or refute any of my points. It's okay champ, take your time.

As for saying anything directly to Whyte himself? Why wouldn't I? Is he so unstable as to physically assault someone who says something he disagrees with? I didn't think he was that far gone mentally yet. Perhaps you do know something more than I believed then, at least about his mental health.

 

He can't stay on topic as his argument has no legs.