Andrés Ponce Ruiz Jr. vs. Luis Ortiz & Isaac Cruz vs. Eduardo Ramirez RBR.

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Uh, it wasn't a 15 round fight? 7 rounds to Ortiz, 5 to Ruiz.
     
  2. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right now I think Helenius might be the bigger threat.
     
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  3. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Neither Ruiz Jr or 55 year old Ortiz belong anywhere near the elite top 10 of the HW division.
     
  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It's good to finally see a good score cards. Ortiz is done at this level, but to be fair Ruiz is done as well.
    He will never ever come to the performance of AJ fight. This is what happen when you are very talented and blessed, but lazy and fat as****.

    His playing with weight, going up and down and eating like elephant was always going to catch on him sooner than latter.
    It's sad to see wasting his career like that.
     
  5. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe so, and yet its still the 2nd best resume in the division, probably 1st in terms of depth of decent wins.
     
  6. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Wilder will send Ruiz to the shadow realm.
     
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  7. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    'Hey, kids. Much love and respect. I want your pop body on my record.'

    :lol:
     
  8. Manu Vatuvei

    Manu Vatuvei Active Member Full Member

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    We were talking about if he wins ‘2 other rounds’, so 4 rounds total

    I think we’re both on the same page
     
  9. RockyMarciano

    RockyMarciano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah it'd be bad
     
  10. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    That one bull**** knockdown and shitty scoring killed him. The only judge that came close to getting it right was 113-112. No way did Andy win more than 5 rounds in that fight.
     
  11. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member

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    So what? LOL. You think a 43 year old guy who's reflex isn't anywhere near what it 10 years ago isn't a factor. That as you age your brain is more susceptible to concussion. I won't respond to this further. Its pointless.
     
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  12. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Deontay steps into the ring. Gonna get Ruiz after Helenius.
     
  13. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He actually looks like a continually better boxer, and the steroids are helping his speed/stamina, but he has very little punch resistance now.
     
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  14. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I told my wife last night before we has sex that I wanted to thank "Al Haymon".

    Jesus Christ, these guys.
     
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  15. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder should’ve shown that respect after Fury beat his ass.
     
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