Fury'sLegacy

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  1. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    If 8 years after he dethroned Vladimir Klitschko making his 18th world title defense, Tyson Fury finished his career with the following

    WILDER KO
    WILDER KO
    WHYTE KO
    JOSHUA KO
    USYK KO

    Despite Ballooning up to 28 stone and spending 3 years out of the ring with severe drink, drugs, and mental health problems, could even the biggest hater on this forum deny that he's the greatest of this Era and a true Heavyweight top 10 ATG?
     
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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Amazing

    Better than Muhammad I'm hard Bruce Lee
     
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  3. Easyrhino

    Easyrhino Member Full Member

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    He also had a mandatory rematch with Wlad which he ducked by going off the rails for 2-3 years with drugs and booze.
     
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  4. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    If he does those last 2 ,easily top 10.
     
  5. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Not sure it would detract too much from his legacy though if he finishes with those 5 knockouts
     
  6. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He faked an ankle injury to get out of it.
     
  7. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Undoubtably the best HW of his time & top 15 HW ATG if Fury beat Usyk, an AJ win doesn't mean much to me.
     
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    If he KOs AJ and Usyk, then it would be very difficult to dispute his status as the greatest HW of his era because he would have dethroned all of the other champions.

    Where he would be in the ATG standings is another story. First off, his era is a bit weak, which of course isn't his fault. But perhaps more significant is that he hasn't fought nearly as much as many of the other HW ATGs. Joe louis had 69 fights, ali 61, foreman 81, holyfield 57, mike tyson 58. (Perhaps you could argue they all fought a few fights at the end that they probably shouldn't have.) Fury has had 33 fights. Being an ATG shouldn't simply mean you're the most talented ever. You need to have the resume to back it up, which should include a large quantity of quality wins. Even if Fury KOs AJ and Usyk, would you say that he has a large quantity of quality wins? The answer may be debatable, but I would say no. Perhaps he's at a disadvantage because his era is a bit weak, but that doesn't mean he couldn't stay busy fighting some of the more respectable contenders out there. Instead, he's now insisting on retiring after every fight until a large enough paycheck comes his way. This is not indicative of an ATG.
     
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  9. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The answer is a resounding no, and it isn't the least bit debatable.
     
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  10. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury is the H2H GOAT

    He can beat two men at one time should he please
     
  11. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    Oh, come on, those bull*hit with ducking Wlad - why ducking him when he took almost all of the rounds and I am not talking abot the judges inadequacy and/or corruption, he mocked at Wlad the entire fight. What would Klitschko have done differently in a second fight - nothing.

    It's a bit early to talk about Fury's legacy. Will do it once he definitely stops boxing.
     
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  12. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Kronk Fury would put a hole in any version of Wlad. Fury gave him too much respect in their first bout. He embarrassed him either way.

    What Fury does to AJ is what he should have done to Wlad. Put it on the robots and chin them when they're tired.
     
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  13. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    HW is a historically weak division, you had 2, maybe 3, decades stacked with talent in the past 100 years. It doesn't does a resume loaded with great wins to make it on the ATG HW list.
     
  14. MAD_PIGE0N

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    So maybe the heavyweight isn't a weak division, but just too hard one.
     
  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mean, we are counting chickens here. He has got to fight and win those fights, first.

    Right now, his legacy is is pretty weak sauce. He is at a sort a crossroads...a few good wins and he really has dominated his albeit weak era. Without those, he is no more than Bowe, Norton, Patterson, Witherspoon, Walcott...