If Helenius beats Wilder does he get credit ? Does losing to Helenius hurt Wilders reputation in leg

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  1. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Does Helenius get credit if he bests Wilder? Does losing to Helenius hurt Wilders legacy?
     
  2. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    helenius will tell us what's left of wilder.
     
  3. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It destroys Fury's resume.
     
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  4. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    When Helenius beats Wilder not if
     
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  5. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    This.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    It will be his best victory, by a mile.
     
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  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    I like cheesecake
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wilder shouldn't lose to Helenius, he's beaten better fighters than him, including 2 guys that beat Helenius. Plus Wilder isn't that old at 36, two years younger than Helenius. So if Wilder somehow loses it probably means that Fury beat him so badly that he ruined Wilder. So no I don't think it ruins his reputation if that's the case.
     
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  9. Charles White

    Charles White Chucker Full Member

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    New York style cheesecake?
     
  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Washington and Duhaupas aren't better fighters than Helenius. Their wins over him aside he's a more accomplished and dangerous fighter. Helenius will definitely be one of Wilders best wins if he's able to pull it off.
     
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  11. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Helenius is not a top 10 heavyweight. His recent career revival is due to stopping Kownacki twice. SO yea if Wilder loses to Helenius it will hurt his career and be the biggest win on Helenius record. He would get credit and talk of a true contender.
     
  12. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Yes and yes.
     
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  13. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Helenius wins its a major upset. Of course he gets credit.
     
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  14. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    What a ridiculous statement that's like saying Usyk isn't better than Joshua because Joshua aside from the losses to Usyk he's an accomplished and dangerous fighter.

    Just because Helenius beat Kownacki who isn't even gatekeeper level and lost his very next fight against a D lister Helenius is suddenly at 38 a top level heavyweight when in reality he's probably barely top 20.
     
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  15. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    If Helenius beats Wilder (which is unlikely) he goes into the TOP 10 heavyweights for a long time; at least until his next defeat.
    It would be the biggest win of his career.