2014 :Deontay Wilder Vs Vitali Klitschko?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Sep 12, 2022.


Who wins?

  1. Vitali?

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  2. Deontay?

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Vitali was looking his age in his last fight in 2012 against Charr. Charr was landing pretty much every time he threw a punch at the end there. He was only stopped because of a cut.

    What Vitali would've looked like in 2014, two years after the Charr bout, wouldn't have been good.

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    In 2014, Wilder would've been coming off the Firtha bout at the end of 2013.

    Wilder hammers him and takes old Vitali out.

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  2. THE BLADE 2

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    Wilder's chin is average. Most importantly, Wilder cant' box. While Vitali lacks fundamentals also, he is still the better boxer and has the ring general ship
     
  3. Marvelous_Iron

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  4. Terror

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    This is 100% accurate. People acting like Vitali will just walk Wilder down and blast him out of there vastly overrate Vitali, especially the hypothetical 2014 version. Vitali is a volume guy with an iron chin but bounces around a lot and does not pack a serious killing blow. Wilder would find openings a lot and it's not inconceivable he would be able to drop Vitali. Every person has that button, and maybe this would have been too much for an older Vitali.

    I think an awkward, chin-up, bouncy volume puncher could potentially be a great look for a one-shot artist like Wilder. It isn't like 2014 Vitali, or really any version had the dynamite his brother did. Vitali is a h2h monster, for sure, but getting crushed by Fury has over-corrected the Wilder narrative.
     
  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I know this. And have favored vitali. I just don’t see it as mismatch and I disagree wilders chin is average. Some of those ripping left hooks and rights that he took from Luis Ortiz and Bermane Stiverne would have hospitalized a lot of dudes
     
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  6. mr. magoo

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    Agree. Tyson fury is quite possibly a more formidable fighter than vitali Klitschko was and I doubt the man considers wilder a pushover
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

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    Wilder arguably got knocked out by a guy with a losing record and Luis Ortiz is pushing 50 years old by some accounts.
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    Wilder got outboxed for 9 rounds by the likes of Szpilka, Vitali has never been down on the scorecards in any fight he's ever fought. Wilder is crude and has suspect stamina Wilder would be getting pummelled by Vitali.
     
  9. Dynamicpuncher

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    Sanders is a Southpaw with quick hands and can punch, that's very rare especially for a Heavyweight. If Wilder was to fight Sanders, that would certainly be Wilder's most dangerous opponent outside of Fury.

    Also a few other things the knockdown was indeed a slip BTW, and Vitali had 230-51 edge in punches landed. Like i said Sanders was brave and had a few moments, but for the most part was beaten up in one sided fashion.

    And your talking about lay offs ? Fury was on a coke depression binge for almost 3 years. And was 100 pounds overweight prior to fighting Wilder 1st time, Wilder only chose to fight Fury because of that, and still lost pretty much every round outside of knockdowns. And a fully fit Fury absolutely man handled Wilder in their 2nd fight.

    That version of Lewis would still KO Wilder no doubt in my mind, the punches Vitali took from Lewis no way is Wilder surviving them. And yes Lewis did earn a legit win over Vitali. But the circumstances with the cut were certainly very beneficial to Lewis.

    Lastly your mentioning age when Wilder's best win is over Luis Ortiz, who by some accounts is nigh on 50 years old.

    Ortiz as i already pointed out is an OAP, and he still almost KO'ed Wilder in their 1st meeting. Yes Wilder floored Fury but still only won like 4 rounds in 3 fights vs Fury, and Vitali has a much better chin than Fury anyway.

    Worse fighters have gone the distance with Vitali but how many rounds have they won ? Vitali even in his losses has never down on the scorecards. And Wilder was getting outboxed by the likes of Szpilka, sorry i haven't seen anything in Wilder that leads me to believe he can compete with Vitali.
     
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  10. mr. magoo

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    Sanders was a fighter with potential and I liked him. But you can’t possibly compare the condition he was in nor his age to that of fury’s going against wilder. And Fury had a few tunups. Fury had the height, weight and reach advantage over wilder and still got hell. And wilder didn’t just fight fury because he was on the come back trail. He fought him THREE times. Ortiz was feared before wilder beat him. He was a south paw with fast hands and a ton of power and wilder took his best without going down. Wilder isn’t losing easily to vitali
     
  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Who knocked him out ? And I think your second point is BS
     
  12. Dynamicpuncher

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    I've heard Sconiers had Wilder on the floor for 10 seconds, Sconiers had a record of 18-27 and was stopped 13 times. The fact the footage has somehow been erased should raise some eyebrows.

    There's alot of people who believe Ortiz is older i know it's speculation but i wouldn't rule it out.
     
  13. Dynamicpuncher

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    The 1st time Wilder fought Fury was because of the lay off i truly believe that, and the level of performance compared to Fury's performance vs Wilder in fights 1 and 2 is night and day. Clearly Fury was much better prepared in the 2nd fight and it showed. Yes Wilder knocked Fury down, but the fact he couldn't finish Fury off despite having him down 4 times. I think highlights Wilder's lack of skill he's very crude and limited.

    Honestly as i said i just don't see Wilder having much success vs Vitali, Vitali has an iron chin i don't see him going down vs Wilder. Lewis hit Vitali with one of the best uppercuts i've ever seen and Vitali shook it off like nothing, Wilder would also not be able to land his right hand frequently on Vitali because of his lack of skills. Like i said someone like Szpilka outboxed Wilder for large periods, and as i alluded to earlier Wilder has suspect stamina and would be getting alot vs Vitali. I don't really see what Wilder can do to make it a very competitive fight in all honesty.
     
  14. sauhund II

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    LOL, WDS aka Wilder derangement syndrome at its finest.

    Let me throw you a free bone here................Fury will toy with the feeble minded Bodybuilder before he finishes him off in December and Fury will never hit the deck in the process.

    If after that beat down the British Hype job wants another pay day against Wilder he will not get a chance to spit his mouth piece out and quit because Wilder will send his head into the cheap seats.

    Undeniable facts.
     
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  15. Dynamicpuncher

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    I've never said Fury wouldn't beat Joshua ? i favour Fury over Joshua but i believe it might be tougher fight than people think.

    Will since Wilder never fancied fighting Joshua when both were undefeated, he obviously wasn't as confident of beating Joshua as your claim of "Wilder sending his head into the cheap seats". And funnily enough Joshua would be far and away Wilder's best win on his resume, as Wilder's only been getting more praise recently for "losing efforts" not actual wins. He hasn't won a fight since 2019 over an OAP and that's a "fact".