Samuel Peter vs Derek Chisora

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Peter was so good that he’s become a permanent fixture in your daily thoughts. I can’t say the same for Chisora.
     
  2. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    - Takam certainly wasn't better than Peter... Peter was much stronger version of him - and Chisora took a beating in there and came back with hail-mary right hand. To be fair Chisora might've been a bit past it himself by the time.

    - Chisora was in his prime when He fought Helenius, Peter was not. You could use that argument to say Sinan Samil Sam was better than Mike Tyson (Turk destroyed Williams and Williams stopped Tyson)

    - Vitaly was already on the slide by the time Chisora got to him. He looked bad even against Charr in his next fight.

    Peter was what He was, but McCline, James Toney and Maskaev were good wins and his effort vs Wlad in first fight was solid. Chisora's best wins are Takam, Pulev...and We can probably give him Helenius.
    All tough fights too, but all in all I rate Peter's wins higher here.
     
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  3. dinovelvet

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    You think Peter would beat Morrison and Foreman too. Ydksab
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Excuses excuses. Who says Chisora was prime against Helenuis? He was coming off a loss and went 2-1 in his next 3 fights after battering Helenius.

    When Peter was in his prime he went down 3 times against an old fat McCline and barely squeaked out a victory. Prime McCline who doesn't take the fight on short notice wipes the floor with Peter , as does Chisora.
    Peters glaring weakness was a left hook and Chisora had a left hook good enough to land consistently on the plodding no defence Sam Peters

    Btw , Takam clearly had a more rounded skillset than Peter.. Antony Joshua gets rid of Peter within 4 rounds.. Takam at least brought a different / backfoot gameplan into that fight with AJ.
    He could box with more range and skill than Peter
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Well, he would beat both if it’s 90s Foreman.
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    only because you are fuelled by hatred for those two men.
     
  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Don’t try to flip the script, weirdo. You should go FaceTime HerolG.
     
  8. Mastrangelo

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    I see why someone would pick Chisora here, but please. Who has He ever "wiped the floor with"? Szpilka? Tough fight for him one way or the other, having someone just as strong who is more fluid in certain areas.

    I think to pick Chisora here is a bit of a recency bias - but hey, agree to disagree.
     
  9. dinovelvet

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    Look at the punch stats against Eddie Chambers and laugh

    Total punches - 131 / 728 = 597 punches missed
    Power punches - 67 / 246 = :qmeparto:

    Peter beat exactly who that proves he would take Chisora ?
     
  10. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    Prove is a big word for a fantasy boxing discussion, hah. Hardly an exact science.
    As far as I'm concerned though:
    Maskaev > Helenius
    McCline > Pulev
    Toney even at that stage probably = Takam.

    So He has better wins than Chisora, to me.
    Eddie was a good fighter at the time by the way. He nearly beat Povetkin on the road. You can nit-pick single fights like that, but how about Chisora getting schooled by Kabayel then? It's a worse look than losing to solid contender like Chambers.

    I'll give Chisora that He had probably a better career overall because of his consistancy and longevity. I think Peter was better prime-for-prime though... and quite clearly too.
    Just my opinion of course ).
     
  11. mr. magoo

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    Good fight. Two tough guys who were strong and could both punch. If we’re talking about the young undefeated version of Peter who gave Wlad a good fight the first time then I’d probably lean towards him to beat Chisora most of the time. But Sam Peter’s window of usefulness was short
     
  12. dinovelvet

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    I don't believe you. You're being dishonest to prove your point because Maskaev was shot to bits and pushing 40. Helenuis was a way better win
    McCline took the fight on a few weeks notice and was also old and past his best. Pulev was prime and had hime advantage over Chisora.

    Toney was an obese Middleweight and gave Peter a boxing lesson in the first fight. .So you're either box'recing or being dishonest.

    Knockouts cause amnesia. Takam before getting knockout out was comfortable outboxing Povetkin , a roided up to the max Povetkin at that. Not the puffy unfit Povetkin that Chambes fought.

    Again , who says Chisora was prime when he beat Heninus from pillar to post? Most say he finally became prime when he hooked up with Haye and took better care of his career and training
     
  13. Mastrangelo

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    Believe me? Dishonest? You don't believe me that I think Peter would win or what? Silly thing to lie about. Anyways champ You're bringing way too much emotions into fantasy boxing discussion. I'm out - WHO NECKS!?
     
  14. dinovelvet

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    Prime undefeated Helenius is a better win than an old battle worn Maskaev at the end of his career. Arguing otherwise tells me you're not having an honest debate. Because the facts are on my side , not yours... OVER and OUT!!