The guys who fought them all

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxing history overflows with fighters who weren’t quite the man but who fought all the top men.

    Sometimes they’re just a cut below world class, sometimes good enough to earn a ranking and even get a (failed) title shot.

    I’m talking about guys who were competitive, not just opponents who built up a losing record taking all offers. More like guys who had a lot to offer even if they weren’t good enough to ascend to the top.

    I’ll start with two:

    Armando Muniz: This Mexican-born welter who fought out of Los Angeles was always a tough out. From Boogaloo Watts and Emile Griffith, Clyde Gray and Ernie Lopez in his early days to Jose Napoles (x2), Carlos Palomino (x2) and Ray Leonard and Pete Ranzany, he didn’t miss many top guys.

    A member of the 1968 U.S. Olympic team, he had four world title shots (Napoles and Palomino, twice each) but came up short each time. He did fight for the U.S. title and held the inaugural NABF title (over Gray) at 147.

    Everett “Bigfoot” Martin: A heavyweight from Tyler, Texas, Martin went 20-39-1 against a who’s-who of the division. Larry Holmes, Riddick Bowe, Bonecrusher Smith, George Foreman, Michael Moorer, Wladimir Klitschko (x2) … and I haven’t even scratched the surface. He lost to almost all of the top guys he faced but did upset Tim Witherspoon by decision.

    Who are some others?
     
  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sorry, title should be ‘fought them all’ but I can’t figure out how to edit the title.
     
  3. Mike_b

    Mike_b Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would say John Brown, he fought so many game fighters that Joe tessitore asked him:" were any of them not the real deal? " He replied with "Shane Mosley." That one caught me by surprise.

    Then there was DeMarcus chop chop Corley, been in the ring with three HOF ers: Cotto, Zab Judah, Floyd Mayweather. When asked his assessment of Miguel he said "he is not on the level of a zab Judah nor a Floyd Mayweather." It could've been out of anger because Cotto just knocked him out.
    Lastly, ray Beltran: great fighter but had that sparring partner mind set (Manny Pacquiao s chief sparring partner) dude was one of the realest, fighting to make sure his family could migrate USA. Also wasn't too proud to beg, he was ok with Manny giving him money and a purpose. The sad thing is that they kept scoring him as though he WAS a sparring partner those crooked judges. Was robbed overseas, just an opponent to pad another's record, not to mention all the wars in the gym with Manny Pacquiao. I'm gonna go read up on this guy, I hope he finally gets/ got his dream: a world title.
     
  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Ken Norton came pretty close. Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Quarry, Shavers, Young, Bobick, Cooney.
     
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  5. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Randy Shields - he fought Thomas Hearns, Pipino Cuevas, Sugar Ray Leonard, Milton McCrory, & Johnny Bumphus and was fairly competitive against that bunch, especially Cuevas.
     
  6. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Old timer Charley White fits this.

    He fought Abe Attell, Willie Ritchie, Jack Britton, Johnny Dundee, Ad Wollgast, Owen Moran, Freddie Welsh, Benny Leonard, Jack Zivic, Rocky Kansas, Matt Wells etc etc…. many of them numerous times.

    Even accounting for the era his was a stacked resume.
     
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  7. Moggy94

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    Kevin Johnson - Fought Vitali Klitschko, Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua, Derek Chisora, Andy Ruiz, Martin Bakole, Filip Hrgovic, Daniel Dubois, Kubrat Pulev, Manual Charr, Bruce Seldon, Yoan Pablo Hernández etc

    Ross Puritty - Fought Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko, Tommy Morrison, Hasim Rahman, Corrie Sanders, Chris Byrd, Eddie Chambers, Michael Grant etc

    Jack Sharkey - Fought Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Primo Carnera, Harry Wills, George Godfrey, Max Schmeling, Young Stribling, Mickey Walker, Tommy Loughran, King Levinsky etc

    Guys like Ray Robinson, Evander Holyfield, Sam Langford, Oscar De La Hoya, Manny Pacquiao and Harry Greb got to be up there too.
     
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  8. Young Terror

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    Juan Laporte.

    Had he beat all the fighters he fought he would have been the best ever.
     
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  9. Pugguy

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    Guys who were removed from the very best boxers of their respective eras by varying degrees but who still fought most of the best around:-

    George Scrap Iron Johnson
    Leroy Caldwell
    Hector Lopez
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

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    You can add another huge name to that list - Wilfred Benitez.
     
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  11. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh, man, I was going over some fighters who really fit this bill. Guys like Adolph Pruitt, Raul Soriano, LC Morgan, Alfredo Urbina and Baby Vasquez. Man, these guys fought everybody. But none moreso than Johnny Risko. Check it out. He fought Jack Sharkey (twice), Gene Tunney, Max Schmeling, Max Baer (twice), Tommy Loughran (5 times), Jimmy Slattery, Joh Henry Lewis, Bob Olin, Mike McTigue, Jack Delaney (twice), Paul Berlanbach, Mickey Walker (3 times) as well as top contenders Ernie Shaaf (twice), Young Stibling (twice) and George Godfrey. No wonder he was called the Cleveland Rubber Man.
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Sammy Angott
    Archie Moore
    Fatboy Meehan

    Are my picks for the three highest levels of competition ever, win or lose. Obviously Archie doesn't fit this bill, and you could argue Angott doesn't either; but I think Meehan is a perfect example.

    That said, there's also dozens of bantams and feathers in the 30s who fought hundreds of times and fought all of the top names. Winning and losing in the process. Guys like Young Tommy, Speedy Dado, Little Pancho or Pablo Dano.
     
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  13. Drew101

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    Wilfred Rivera and Oba Carr pretty much faced everyone in the 90's welterweight ranks between them.
     
  14. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rocky lockridge …and he held his own
     
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  15. Bronze Tiger

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    Miguel Cotto will be remembered this way
     
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